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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/28/politics/biden-cpap-sleep-apnea/index.html

    President Joe Biden has recently begun using a CPAP machine to treat sleep apnea, the White House says, after indentations from straps were seen on both sides of his face Wednesday morning.

    “Since 2008, the president has disclosed his history with sleep apnea in thorough medical reports. He used a CPAP machine last night, which is common for people with that history,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said.

    An official familiar with the matter said Biden began using the device in recent weeks to improve sleep quality.

    Marks could also be seen on the side of Biden’s face during a Monday event at the White House meant to promote an expansion of high-speed internet.

    Biden, who, at 80, is the nation’s oldest president, has had a history of sleep apnea in the past.

    Medical records released in 2008 indicated Biden had a recurring issue with sleep apnea.

    A health record released by Biden’s doctor in 2019 said sleep apnea “has been considered, but his symptoms have improved significantly after his sinus and nasal passage surgeries.”

    Perhaps this is the explanation:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33769542/

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Well isn’t that comforting.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        Personal anecdote.

        I have a friend who uses a CPAP machine. For various reasons, they stopped using it for about 3 weeks. Various friends noticed a definite change in mental status, particularly memory.

        (no it wasn't me)

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Copper
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          Someone will make big bucks for the picture of him wearing the mask.

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          • George KG George K

            Personal anecdote.

            I have a friend who uses a CPAP machine. For various reasons, they stopped using it for about 3 weeks. Various friends noticed a definite change in mental status, particularly memory.

            (no it wasn't me)

            CopperC Offline
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            @George-K said in The Facial Creases:

            definite change

            Better or worse?

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            • MikM Offline
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              I’ve used one for 15 years. Wouldn’t sleep without it. I even managed to use it on the plane back from Hawaii. Still gives me no comfort that he needs it for cognizance.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Is it that or do they have him on high oxygen therapy before he totters onstage?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • MikM Mik

                  I’ve used one for 15 years. Wouldn’t sleep without it. I even managed to use it on the plane back from Hawaii. Still gives me no comfort that he needs it for cognizance.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @Mik said in The Facial Creases:

                  gives me no comfort that he needs it for cognizance.

                  Yah, but...

                  Biden began using the device in recent weeks to improve (cough) sleep quality.

                  [@jolly]

                  Enjoy!

                  [/@jolly]

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    The article said he had suffered from apnea aa long time. CPAP is the gold standard treatment, so why just now?

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      The article said he had suffered from apnea aa long time. CPAP is the gold standard treatment, so why just now?

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                      George K
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                      @Mik said in The Facial Creases:

                      The article said he had suffered from apnea aa long time. CPAP is the gold standard treatment, so why just now?

                      Exactly. I mentioned this to Mrs. George.

                      "What a dumbass!" she said. Actually there were some other words in there that I don't recall, but, in the interest of maintaining the semblance of a family-friendly forum, I'll refrain.

                      Also, what was the time of the crease-revealing photo? I mean, did he just get out of bed?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        The article said he had suffered from apnea aa long time. CPAP is the gold standard treatment, so why just now?

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                        @Mik said in The Facial Creases:

                        The article said he had suffered from apnea aa long time. CPAP is the gold standard treatment, so why just now?

                        Probably because he thought it was called CPAC and didn’t want to support conservatives.

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                          @Mik said in The Facial Creases:

                          The article said he had suffered from apnea aa long time. CPAP is the gold standard treatment, so why just now?

                          Probably because he thought it was called CPAC and didn’t want to support conservatives.

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                          @89th said in The Facial Creases:

                          @Mik said in The Facial Creases:

                          The article said he had suffered from apnea aa long time. CPAP is the gold standard treatment, so why just now?

                          Probably because he thought it was called CPAC and didn’t want to support conservatives.

                          As logical as any explanation we'll hear in the next week or so.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Copper
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                            Link to video

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                              George K
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                              Gc4lIgqWoAAZtZw.jpeg

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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