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Texas: no water break for you

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 09:16 last edited by
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/23/greg-abbott-texas-governor-bill-water-breaks-heatwave

    Texas governor signs bill rescinding water breaks as deadly heat grips state

    Measure will nullify local ordinances that provide workers protection from devastating, triple-digit temperatures

    What local workers protection ordinances are being eliminated? The article cites one that says construction workers working under high heat are to get a 10 minute water break for every four hours worked.

    Making labor rules consistent across the entire state can be a worthy goal, this one just goes about it in a seemingly cruel, one-sided manner -- it prohibits local governments from instituting worker protection measures without providing a corresponding state level worker protection measure.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 12:06 last edited by
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      10 minutes every 4 hours is pissing in the ocean. It's a self-regulating problem. Push the guys too hard and they'll quit or they'll find time for mini-breaks on their own. Last ditch is where the worker gets a heat stroke and the company gets sued, or at the very least is stuck with a decent medical bill.

      As a young lad, I rode a jackhammer in 100+ heat. Ah, to be young and dumb...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Mik
        wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 12:10 last edited by
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        Yeah, they're going to get water when they need it. There's no way you can change that, and I know of no employers who would not try to make sure they stayed hydrated. I guess I'll have to read the article.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          Mik
          wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 12:12 last edited by
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          OK, I read it. It makes no sense, so I have to assume something else is going on that is not in the article.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            24 Jun 2023, 12:12

            OK, I read it. It makes no sense, so I have to assume something else is going on that is not in the article.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 12:21 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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            @Mik said in Texas: no water break for you:

            OK, I read it. It makes no sense, so I have to assume something else is going on that is not in the article.

            It looked to me like Texas trying to centralize working regulations so that they're consistent State-wide, and stopping "progressive" towns making up fancy rules of their own. Maybe there's a ton of these little rules and it gets confusing?

            I was only joking

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 12:34 last edited by
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              It primarily has to do with the AFL-CIO. The labor union is pulling an inordinate amount of weight against local communities. This law alleviates the negotiation burden on small communities that aren’t in a position to resist the union and makes the union have to negotiate with the state, a much tougher proposition.

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                Mik
                wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 12:34 last edited by
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                OK, now I understand.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 12:38 last edited by
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                  You also have Austin basically giving stuff away to the labor unions, which presents difficulties for sane districts in competing for labor.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 24 Jun 2023, 12:41 last edited by
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                    Sounds sensible. Thanks for explaining, LD.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      LuFins Dad
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