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Scarlatti and Me

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I've mentioned before that I started going through the Scarlatti sonatas as daily sight reading exercise.

    I started in early 2018. As of today, I'm done. All 562.

    562 you ask?

    I did the 545 catalogued by Longo, added the 10 more that Kilpatrick found (getting to 555), played the one discovered in the Morgan Library ('Cary 703'), and the 6 recently found in the Cathedral of Zaragosa by Yañez.

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    @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

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      What’s your favorite one?

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      @Klaus said in Scarlatti and Me:

      What’s your favorite one?

      I still like k87 and k54. But those were my favorite before all this.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

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        @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

        @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

        Yes I do. I have his Godowsky-Chopin etudes. Though you have to listen to them before you’ve heard Hamelin play them.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • RainmanR Rainman

          Nice, Jon.

          Next step: memorization

          Final: Jon performs The Ring all Scarlatti sonatas from memory.

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          @Rainman said in Scarlatti and Me:

          Nice, Jon.

          Next step: memorization

          Once at the end of a calendar year there was a thread at PW asking people what their musical plans were for the new year. I said “finish memorizing the Scarlatti sonatas”.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

            @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

            Yes I do. I have his Godowsky-Chopin etudes. Though you have to listen to them before you’ve heard Hamelin play them.

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            @jon-nyc I still love Horowitz Plays Scarlatti (RCA). I always thought his style was unparalleled.

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              I have the CD.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I have the CD.

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                @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

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                  @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

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                  @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                  @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                  Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                  So are the slow movements from the Mozart sonatas, but @jon-nyc won't go there, amirite?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    @jon-nyc That is awesome that you did that.

                    Did you notice improvement in your playing/site reading after this?

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                      Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Scarlatti and Me:

                        Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

                        Jon, it really is great you tackled all the Scarlatti.
                        But staying true to form, I'll continue to help:

                        If you ever do perform them, I hope you explain who Kilpatrick was. I've never heard of him. Maybe just go by "Ralph K."(?)

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

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                          @jon-nyc I stumbled on this documentary. Worth watching

                          Link to video

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                            Thanks I’ll check it out

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                              (asking for Aqua)

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                that pianist must be the most accomplished hipster ever.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                  (asking for Aqua)

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                                  @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                  Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                  (asking for Aqua)

                                  Depends on whether they are the subject or object which I left ambiguous

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                    @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                                    Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                                    So are the slow movements from the Mozart sonatas, but @jon-nyc won't go there, amirite?

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                                    @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                    @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                    @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                                    Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                                    Really? I'd say they are one league up in terms of difficulty compared to most Scarlatti sonatas.

                                    I personally use Opus Clavicembalisticum for sight-reading practice.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                      Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                      (asking for Aqua)

                                      Depends on whether they are the subject or object which I left ambiguous

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                      @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                      Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                      (asking for Aqua)

                                      Depends on whether they are the subject or object which I left ambiguous

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                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        This day in history, July 23rd 1757, Scarlatti passed away in Madrid.

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