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I think he sincerely believes he is right and everyone else is too weak to fight for what is truly good for the country.
I think the rest of the comments about personality are interesting and many on point but I believe his primary motivation is my first sentence. Of course he would want all the credit given his ego needs and blame others (their weakness or really bad ideas) for any failure.
wrote on 15 Jul 2020, 23:04 last edited byI think he sincerely believes he is right and everyone else is too weak to fight for what is truly good for the country.
I think the rest of the comments about personality are interesting and many on point but I believe his primary motivation is my first sentence. Of course he would want all the credit given his ego needs and blame others (their weakness or really bad ideas) for any failure.
Yes.
Trump has been saying the same things for the last 30 years. He has not wavered one bit. The democrat party has shifted so far to the Left it is now a threat to the nation. The Republican party has moved Left as well, which moved the center toward the left, and now you have people arguing about whether he's left right or center when most everyone has forgotten where center even is.
"He's in it for himself". Yeah, right. You're a billionaire in your early 70s, living a fairy tale life, and you decide to give up the lifestyle, lose a third of your net worth, and work for free at a job where half the country and 90% of the news media vilify you daily, mock you, say disgusting things about your wife, etc. All to gratify some selfish personal reason.... like..... what?
20 years ago Trumps views would have been agreed on even by democrats. This "moral outrage" so many of his detractors trot out when they toss their noses in the air and justify their position by referring to some alleged flaw in his character..... give me a fucking break. You sat on your thumbs while a democrat was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office, you are sitting on your thumbs right this very minute as tens of thousands of human babies are legally MURDERED every year, legal because the crooked politicians and corrupt ideology that you refuse to hold to the same standards you set for Trump says it's legal..
One can only imagine, given what Trump has accomplished in spite of all the bull shit, just how much more this cou try could have accomplished if, instead of being attacked or resisted at every turn, the "morally superior ass hats had put the nation first and worked with the man.
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I think he sincerely believes he is right and everyone else is too weak to fight for what is truly good for the country.
I think the rest of the comments about personality are interesting and many on point but I believe his primary motivation is my first sentence. Of course he would want all the credit given his ego needs and blame others (their weakness or really bad ideas) for any failure.
Yes.
Trump has been saying the same things for the last 30 years. He has not wavered one bit. The democrat party has shifted so far to the Left it is now a threat to the nation. The Republican party has moved Left as well, which moved the center toward the left, and now you have people arguing about whether he's left right or center when most everyone has forgotten where center even is.
"He's in it for himself". Yeah, right. You're a billionaire in your early 70s, living a fairy tale life, and you decide to give up the lifestyle, lose a third of your net worth, and work for free at a job where half the country and 90% of the news media vilify you daily, mock you, say disgusting things about your wife, etc. All to gratify some selfish personal reason.... like..... what?
20 years ago Trumps views would have been agreed on even by democrats. This "moral outrage" so many of his detractors trot out when they toss their noses in the air and justify their position by referring to some alleged flaw in his character..... give me a fucking break. You sat on your thumbs while a democrat was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office, you are sitting on your thumbs right this very minute as tens of thousands of human babies are legally MURDERED every year, legal because the crooked politicians and corrupt ideology that you refuse to hold to the same standards you set for Trump says it's legal..
One can only imagine, given what Trump has accomplished in spite of all the bull shit, just how much more this cou try could have accomplished if, instead of being attacked or resisted at every turn, the "morally superior ass hats had put the nation first and worked with the man.
wrote on 15 Jul 2020, 23:24 last edited by@Larry I dunno that's he's been very consistent.
He seemed like he was fond of Democrats and their policies in his 50's. In a 2004 interview:
"It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."
He thought we were screwed on trade and takeover by the Asians, but it was the Japanese that he was afraid of.
He was pro-choice.
On fairy-tale life. Seems like he thrives on being the center of attention. He's never had real money issues I don't think - so he wouldn't necessarily see being rich and with beautiful women as a non-normal or remarkable thing.
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wrote on 15 Jul 2020, 23:36 last edited by
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I was wondering when we were finally going to get round to a discussion of Donald Trump
wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 00:09 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump:
I was wondering when we were finally going to get round to a discussion of Donald Trump
Indeed, it's been overdue for quite a time, has it not?
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wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 01:23 last edited by
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Not a single damn person has actually answered the question.
Do you not know or are y'all incapable?
The Trump Doctrine: America First, Northern European Values, robust economy and high employment across races and genders. Fair trade agreements and burden sharing. An immigration policy that has closed borders such that people who meet criteria can get in.
wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 01:25 last edited byNot a single damn person has actually answered the question.
Do you not know or are y'all incapable?
The Trump Doctrine: America First, Northern European Values, robust economy and high employment across races and genders. Fair trade agreements and burden sharing. An immigration policy that has closed borders such that people who meet criteria can get in.
I could add some more, but not bad. Not bad at all...
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wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 02:23 last edited by
LokiRainman said:The Trump Doctrine: America First, Northern European Values, robust economy and high employment across races and genders. Fair trade agreements and burden sharing. An immigration policy that has closed borders such that people who meet criteria can get in.
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wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:56 last edited by
“I will protect your statues.
I will protect your beans.
Your grandmother is on her own.”
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wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 18:34 last edited by
What say you justify your crack about grandma with facts.
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wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 18:37 last edited by
Screw grandma. I'd like some facts about him protecting my beans.
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wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 18:03 last edited by jon-nyc
Hey Jolly, Loki - what’s Trump’s plan for Covid? A serious question.
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wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 18:18 last edited by
@jon-nyc
To keep the economy afloat. I think that's why he is open to a second stimulus, even though we're borrowing money we can't pay back. There's nothing much anybody can do with COVID, except flatten the curve enough to not overwhelm the healthcare system. Sure, he can wax eloquent about Plaquenil use, how hard we are working on vaccines or about how fast we can build a field hospital, but it's mostly just window dressing to keep the panic manageable.Trump has pretty much put the COVID response to a Federalist approach, whereby the governors call the shots and the Feds provide the back-up (or what back-up they can).
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wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 18:26 last edited by
I would agree he’s been reasonably focused on payments but that is purely reactive.
Seems like optimizing on the economy would have included an intense focus on test and trace capability to limit the need for closures.
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I would agree he’s been reasonably focused on payments but that is purely reactive.
Seems like optimizing on the economy would have included an intense focus on test and trace capability to limit the need for closures.
wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 18:47 last edited byI would agree he’s been reasonably focused on payments but that is purely reactive.
Seems like optimizing on the economy would have included an intense focus on test and trace capability to limit the need for closures.
If people lose immunity within six months and we have six strains of COVID out there, I don't know how much intensive testing can keep the disease tamped down.
Witness how cabin-crazy most people under 30 became, after just six weeks.
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wrote on 19 Jul 2020, 16:44 last edited by