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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
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    #19

    I don’t understand Jolly’s question.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      I don’t understand Jolly’s question.

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      George K
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      @Klaus said in Trump:

      I don’t understand Jolly’s question.

      I think he's trying to suss out the difference between what people think of Trump's policies vs what they think of Trump's personality.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • L Loki

        I think he sincerely believes he is right and everyone else is too weak to fight for what is truly good for the country.

        I think the rest of the comments about personality are interesting and many on point but I believe his primary motivation is my first sentence. Of course he would want all the credit given his ego needs and blame others (their weakness or really bad ideas) for any failure.

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        @Loki said in Trump:

        I think he sincerely believes he is right and everyone else is too weak to fight for what is truly good for the country.

        I think the rest of the comments about personality are interesting and many on point but I believe his primary motivation is my first sentence. Of course he would want all the credit given his ego needs and blame others (their weakness or really bad ideas) for any failure.

        Yes.

        Trump has been saying the same things for the last 30 years. He has not wavered one bit. The democrat party has shifted so far to the Left it is now a threat to the nation. The Republican party has moved Left as well, which moved the center toward the left, and now you have people arguing about whether he's left right or center when most everyone has forgotten where center even is.

        "He's in it for himself". Yeah, right. You're a billionaire in your early 70s, living a fairy tale life, and you decide to give up the lifestyle, lose a third of your net worth, and work for free at a job where half the country and 90% of the news media vilify you daily, mock you, say disgusting things about your wife, etc. All to gratify some selfish personal reason.... like..... what?

        20 years ago Trumps views would have been agreed on even by democrats. This "moral outrage" so many of his detractors trot out when they toss their noses in the air and justify their position by referring to some alleged flaw in his character..... give me a fucking break. You sat on your thumbs while a democrat was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office, you are sitting on your thumbs right this very minute as tens of thousands of human babies are legally MURDERED every year, legal because the crooked politicians and corrupt ideology that you refuse to hold to the same standards you set for Trump says it's legal..

        One can only imagine, given what Trump has accomplished in spite of all the bull shit, just how much more this cou try could have accomplished if, instead of being attacked or resisted at every turn, the "morally superior ass hats had put the nation first and worked with the man.

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        • LarryL Larry

          @Loki said in Trump:

          I think he sincerely believes he is right and everyone else is too weak to fight for what is truly good for the country.

          I think the rest of the comments about personality are interesting and many on point but I believe his primary motivation is my first sentence. Of course he would want all the credit given his ego needs and blame others (their weakness or really bad ideas) for any failure.

          Yes.

          Trump has been saying the same things for the last 30 years. He has not wavered one bit. The democrat party has shifted so far to the Left it is now a threat to the nation. The Republican party has moved Left as well, which moved the center toward the left, and now you have people arguing about whether he's left right or center when most everyone has forgotten where center even is.

          "He's in it for himself". Yeah, right. You're a billionaire in your early 70s, living a fairy tale life, and you decide to give up the lifestyle, lose a third of your net worth, and work for free at a job where half the country and 90% of the news media vilify you daily, mock you, say disgusting things about your wife, etc. All to gratify some selfish personal reason.... like..... what?

          20 years ago Trumps views would have been agreed on even by democrats. This "moral outrage" so many of his detractors trot out when they toss their noses in the air and justify their position by referring to some alleged flaw in his character..... give me a fucking break. You sat on your thumbs while a democrat was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office, you are sitting on your thumbs right this very minute as tens of thousands of human babies are legally MURDERED every year, legal because the crooked politicians and corrupt ideology that you refuse to hold to the same standards you set for Trump says it's legal..

          One can only imagine, given what Trump has accomplished in spite of all the bull shit, just how much more this cou try could have accomplished if, instead of being attacked or resisted at every turn, the "morally superior ass hats had put the nation first and worked with the man.

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          @Larry I dunno that's he's been very consistent.

          He seemed like he was fond of Democrats and their policies in his 50's. In a 2004 interview:

          "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."

          He thought we were screwed on trade and takeover by the Asians, but it was the Japanese that he was afraid of.

          He was pro-choice.

          On fairy-tale life. Seems like he thrives on being the center of attention. He's never had real money issues I don't think - so he wouldn't necessarily see being rich and with beautiful women as a non-normal or remarkable thing.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              I was wondering when we were finally going to get round to a discussion of Donald Trump

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              #24

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump:

              I was wondering when we were finally going to get round to a discussion of Donald Trump

              Indeed, it's been overdue for quite a time, has it not?

              Elbows up!

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              • George KG George K

                @Klaus said in Trump:

                I don’t understand Jolly’s question.

                I think he's trying to suss out the difference between what people think of Trump's policies vs what they think of Trump's personality.

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                Jolly
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                #25

                @George-K said in Trump:

                @Klaus said in Trump:

                I don’t understand Jolly’s question.

                I think he's trying to suss out the difference between what people think of Trump's policies vs what they think of Trump's personality.

                I knew there was a reason you were admitted to a prestigious profession!

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • L Loki

                  @Jolly said in Trump:

                  Not a single damn person has actually answered the question.

                  Do you not know or are y'all incapable?

                  The Trump Doctrine: America First, Northern European Values, robust economy and high employment across races and genders. Fair trade agreements and burden sharing. An immigration policy that has closed borders such that people who meet criteria can get in.

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                  Jolly
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                  #26

                  @Loki said in Trump:

                  @Jolly said in Trump:

                  Not a single damn person has actually answered the question.

                  Do you not know or are y'all incapable?

                  The Trump Doctrine: America First, Northern European Values, robust economy and high employment across races and genders. Fair trade agreements and burden sharing. An immigration policy that has closed borders such that people who meet criteria can get in.

                  I could add some more, but not bad. Not bad at all...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    #27

                    Loki Rainman said:

                    The Trump Doctrine: America First, Northern European Values, robust economy and high employment across races and genders. Fair trade agreements and burden sharing. An immigration policy that has closed borders such that people who meet criteria can get in.
                    And other good stuff and junk.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      #28

                      “I will protect your statues.

                      I will protect your beans.

                      Your grandmother is on her own.”

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • LarryL Offline
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                        Larry
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                        #29

                        What say you justify your crack about grandma with facts.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          Screw grandma. I'd like some facts about him protecting my beans.

                          I was only joking

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #31

                            Hey Jolly, Loki - what’s Trump’s plan for Covid? A serious question.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Hey Jolly, Loki - what’s Trump’s plan for Covid? A serious question.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #32

                              @jon-nyc
                              To keep the economy afloat. I think that's why he is open to a second stimulus, even though we're borrowing money we can't pay back. There's nothing much anybody can do with COVID, except flatten the curve enough to not overwhelm the healthcare system. Sure, he can wax eloquent about Plaquenil use, how hard we are working on vaccines or about how fast we can build a field hospital, but it's mostly just window dressing to keep the panic manageable.

                              Trump has pretty much put the COVID response to a Federalist approach, whereby the governors call the shots and the Feds provide the back-up (or what back-up they can).

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                jon-nyc
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                                I would agree he’s been reasonably focused on payments but that is purely reactive.

                                Seems like optimizing on the economy would have included an intense focus on test and trace capability to limit the need for closures.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  I would agree he’s been reasonably focused on payments but that is purely reactive.

                                  Seems like optimizing on the economy would have included an intense focus on test and trace capability to limit the need for closures.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #34

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump:

                                  I would agree he’s been reasonably focused on payments but that is purely reactive.

                                  Seems like optimizing on the economy would have included an intense focus on test and trace capability to limit the need for closures.

                                  If people lose immunity within six months and we have six strains of COVID out there, I don't know how much intensive testing can keep the disease tamped down.

                                  Witness how cabin-crazy most people under 30 became, after just six weeks.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    “I will protect your statues.

                                    I will protect your beans.

                                    Your grandmother is on her own.”

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #35

                                    @jon-nyc said in Trump:

                                    “I will protect your statues.

                                    I will protect your beans.

                                    Your grandmother is on her own.”

                                    Black beans matter!

                                    I was only joking

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