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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by Jolly
    #36

    You know, the Church of Atheism is strong in today's world. I really don't see where it offers hope or a better way for man to live.

    John is the Sinner's Gospel. Lot in there. Whosoever believeth helps it make sense.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #37

      Atheism? Sinners?

      You’re certainly not shy of throwing out labels. But I understand it, you are a self admitted evangelizing Baptist. I don’t take your view to heart or seriously.

      As for my personal beliefs, it does not preclude a Creator it is just not in the Christian sense. I have more in common with Jefferson, Beethoven and Napoleon in this regard than Hitchens and Dawkins.

      It’s also really none of your business how I choose to regulate my spiritual beliefs.

      Elbows up!

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #38

        But it's your business to comment on mine?

        Go clean your own yard, then.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #39

          When you put into my face, yes I will comment.

          Elbows up!

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #40

            It's in your face, because you feel convicted?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #41

              No, just content with my lot.

              How about you, Grand Inquisitor?

              Elbows up!

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
                wrote on last edited by
                #42

                Very much agree with @Jolly in this thread. Admittedly the male-only church leadership can be seen as a stricter understanding of the Bible but it’s certainly not inconsistent with its teaching.

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  No, just content with my lot.

                  How about you, Grand Inquisitor?

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #43

                  @Renauda said in Southern Baptists Eject Churches for Having Female Pastors:

                  No, just content with my lot.

                  How about you, Grand Inquisitor?

                  No inquisitor. We've established you're halfway there, so I'm just trying to drag you across the Finish Line

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #44

                    I am not against religion - in fact, I believe that it offers a lot of benefits: a sense of belonging, generally a good moral code, purpose in life, etc.

                    But, I do have a couple of "problems"

                    For example, the Bible being taken litereral. It is a book written 2000 years ago and a lot of it is "as told to". I think that it is pretty much agreed that eyewitness accounts are often more inaccurate than accurate.

                    How can one religion claims to be the one and only true religion. Why is Muslim say that theirs is the only true religion? Same with Christian, Buddhist, etc.

                    Ultimately, religion (for my opinion) comes down to faith and not any real "facts". Because for every "fact" a Buddhist gives out that "proves" they are the correct religion, a Christian (or other religion) has their own "fact" to "prove" their case.

                    But, as I said, I do think that religion can provide a lot of benefits to people.

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #45

                      No inquisitor. We've established you're halfway there, so I'm just trying to drag you across the Finish Line

                      You’ve established nothing of the sort. Your faith is your own, I do not desire to be a part of it or participate in it.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        No inquisitor. We've established you're halfway there, so I'm just trying to drag you across the Finish Line

                        You’ve established nothing of the sort. Your faith is your own, I do not desire to be a part of it or participate in it.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #46

                        @Renauda said in Southern Baptists Eject Churches for Having Female Pastors:

                        No inquisitor. We've established you're halfway there, so I'm just trying to drag you across the Finish Line

                        You’ve established nothing of the sort. Your faith is your own, I do not desire to be a part of it or participate in it.

                        Aw, c'mon man! Total immersion baptism. It'll be the best bath you've had in years! (It may be the only bath he's had in years. 😄).

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          I am not against religion - in fact, I believe that it offers a lot of benefits: a sense of belonging, generally a good moral code, purpose in life, etc.

                          But, I do have a couple of "problems"

                          For example, the Bible being taken litereral. It is a book written 2000 years ago and a lot of it is "as told to". I think that it is pretty much agreed that eyewitness accounts are often more inaccurate than accurate.

                          How can one religion claims to be the one and only true religion. Why is Muslim say that theirs is the only true religion? Same with Christian, Buddhist, etc.

                          Ultimately, religion (for my opinion) comes down to faith and not any real "facts". Because for every "fact" a Buddhist gives out that "proves" they are the correct religion, a Christian (or other religion) has their own "fact" to "prove" their case.

                          But, as I said, I do think that religion can provide a lot of benefits to people.

                          JollyJ Offline
                          JollyJ Offline
                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #47

                          @taiwan_girl said in Southern Baptists Eject Churches for Having Female Pastors:

                          I am not against religion - in fact, I believe that it offers a lot of benefits: a sense of belonging, generally a good moral code, purpose in life, etc.

                          But, I do have a couple of "problems"

                          For example, the Bible being taken litereral. It is a book written 2000 years ago and a lot of it is "as told to". I think that it is pretty much agreed that eyewitness accounts are often more inaccurate than accurate.

                          How can one religion claims to be the one and only true religion. Why is Muslim say that theirs is the only true religion? Same with Christian, Buddhist, etc.

                          Ultimately, religion (for my opinion) comes down to faith and not any real "facts". Because for every "fact" a Buddhist gives out that "proves" they are the correct religion, a Christian (or other religion) has their own "fact" to "prove" their case.

                          But, as I said, I do think that religion can provide a lot of benefits to people.

                          A few things to chew on...

                          Much of the OT was passed down orally. When comparing manuscripts, they have found manuscripts differing in age by hundreds of years to be virtually identical. That's a miracle in itself.

                          If you go back and look at prophecy in the OT, that which has been fulfilled has been 100% accurate. Even those prophecies concerning the coming of the Messiah.

                          The Bible has never been proven archeologically inaccurate. As I said, if it talks about a city, a village, or a geographical feature, it is there.

                          Jesus Christ is the only principal figure of any religion I am aware of, who died, was entombed, yet rose again on the third day. After his resurrection, he walked and talked with people (around 40, IIRC), before ascending into the clouds. You will find no grave or tomb for Jesus, because He is not there.

                          As for Biblical inerrancy, we look at that differently than some denominations such as the Presbyterians do. We believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God, inerrant, infallible and sufficient thereof.

                          You're right, it all comes down to Faith, but Christianity is based on Grace. Works are good, but works will not get you to Heaven. Only Grace. All mankind is trapped within a pit of sin, unable to crawl out. Grace is that rope thrown down by God, that allows him to crawl out of the hole.

                          Hope that gives you some food for thought...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @taiwan_girl said in Southern Baptists Eject Churches for Having Female Pastors:

                            I am not against religion - in fact, I believe that it offers a lot of benefits: a sense of belonging, generally a good moral code, purpose in life, etc.

                            But, I do have a couple of "problems"

                            For example, the Bible being taken litereral. It is a book written 2000 years ago and a lot of it is "as told to". I think that it is pretty much agreed that eyewitness accounts are often more inaccurate than accurate.

                            How can one religion claims to be the one and only true religion. Why is Muslim say that theirs is the only true religion? Same with Christian, Buddhist, etc.

                            Ultimately, religion (for my opinion) comes down to faith and not any real "facts". Because for every "fact" a Buddhist gives out that "proves" they are the correct religion, a Christian (or other religion) has their own "fact" to "prove" their case.

                            But, as I said, I do think that religion can provide a lot of benefits to people.

                            A few things to chew on...

                            Much of the OT was passed down orally. When comparing manuscripts, they have found manuscripts differing in age by hundreds of years to be virtually identical. That's a miracle in itself.

                            If you go back and look at prophecy in the OT, that which has been fulfilled has been 100% accurate. Even those prophecies concerning the coming of the Messiah.

                            The Bible has never been proven archeologically inaccurate. As I said, if it talks about a city, a village, or a geographical feature, it is there.

                            Jesus Christ is the only principal figure of any religion I am aware of, who died, was entombed, yet rose again on the third day. After his resurrection, he walked and talked with people (around 40, IIRC), before ascending into the clouds. You will find no grave or tomb for Jesus, because He is not there.

                            As for Biblical inerrancy, we look at that differently than some denominations such as the Presbyterians do. We believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God, inerrant, infallible and sufficient thereof.

                            You're right, it all comes down to Faith, but Christianity is based on Grace. Works are good, but works will not get you to Heaven. Only Grace. All mankind is trapped within a pit of sin, unable to crawl out. Grace is that rope thrown down by God, that allows him to crawl out of the hole.

                            Hope that gives you some food for thought...

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                            @Jolly said in Southern Baptists Eject Churches for Having Female Pastors:

                            Jesus Christ is the only principal figure of any religion I am aware of, who died, was entombed, yet rose again on the third day. ...

                            Which reminds me ... https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/24980/knock-knock

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #49

                              Ya gotta do something when not letting your children watch porn.

                              Oops, that's not true. you never answered George's question, did you?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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