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  • JonJ Jon

    @Jolly said in Yes:

    May he walk away a free man.

    Just to watch heads explode...

    Have you read the relevant sections of the indictment or decent reporting on it? Are you aware of what Trump did?

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    @Jon said in Yes:

    @Jolly said in Yes:

    May he walk away a free man.

    Just to watch heads explode...

    Have you read the relevant sections of the indictment or decent reporting on it? Are you aware of what Trump did?

    Nobody cares, one way or the other.

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      Jon
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      You would actually. It would be entertaining as fuck.

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        LuFins Dad
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        By the way, personally I think he did it many of the things alleged. I also think that maybe some are a wee bit exaggerated. I believe in a sane world that Trump should face criminal charges on these allegations, but espionage is WAY-WAY too far (and is likely his out, if there is one)… I also think at this point a another Trump presidency would be one of the worst things for the country.

        But they better have all of their evidence lined up and it had better be unequivocal as to its authenticity. Even then, significant numbers will never believe it, and some of it will be on them as some are generally nutters and ignorant. But a lot of it will be on the Federal Government due to the last 15 years of lies and manipulation.

        The Brad

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          The government has been up to shenanigans far longer than 15 years. Pretty much they've always been this way. I know you knew that, but still. That's one reason folks were attracted to Trump's outside-the-beltway swamp-draining message, even though he ended up being the swamp monster itself and a beyond-expectations leader of beltway tomfoolery.

          Nonetheless, the distrust of the DOJ that you're referring to seems to be more of a branch off the lying Trump Tree that many folks have picked their news apples from. Forget all the punditry, Trump broke many laws in regards to the handling of these classified matters and he brought this investigation on himself based on how he responded to Archives and DOJ requests. It's almost as if he.........gasps.... wants the attention. Few things matter to him more than being in the headlines and getting the ratings.

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          • 89th8 89th

            The government has been up to shenanigans far longer than 15 years. Pretty much they've always been this way. I know you knew that, but still. That's one reason folks were attracted to Trump's outside-the-beltway swamp-draining message, even though he ended up being the swamp monster itself and a beyond-expectations leader of beltway tomfoolery.

            Nonetheless, the distrust of the DOJ that you're referring to seems to be more of a branch off the lying Trump Tree that many folks have picked their news apples from. Forget all the punditry, Trump broke many laws in regards to the handling of these classified matters and he brought this investigation on himself based on how he responded to Archives and DOJ requests. It's almost as if he.........gasps.... wants the attention. Few things matter to him more than being in the headlines and getting the ratings.

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            @89th said in Yes:

            The government has been up to shenanigans far longer than 15 years. Pretty much they've always been this way. I know you knew that, but still. That's one reason folks were attracted to Trump's outside-the-beltway swamp-draining message, even though he ended up being the swamp monster itself and a beyond-expectations leader of beltway tomfoolery.

            Nonetheless, the distrust of the DOJ that you're referring to seems to be more of a branch off the lying Trump Tree that many folks have picked their news apples from. Forget all the punditry, Trump broke many laws in regards to the handling of these classified matters and he brought this investigation on himself based on how he responded to Archives and DOJ requests. It's almost as if he.........gasps.... wants the attention. Few things matter to him more than being in the headlines and getting the ratings.

            TDS, writ large.

            Trump as the ultimate swamp monster is a bit laughable.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Trump acted like he was draining the swamp, but really he was just buying it, rebranding it Trump Swamps, and doing laps in it at night.

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              • 89th8 89th

                The government has been up to shenanigans far longer than 15 years. Pretty much they've always been this way. I know you knew that, but still. That's one reason folks were attracted to Trump's outside-the-beltway swamp-draining message, even though he ended up being the swamp monster itself and a beyond-expectations leader of beltway tomfoolery.

                Nonetheless, the distrust of the DOJ that you're referring to seems to be more of a branch off the lying Trump Tree that many folks have picked their news apples from. Forget all the punditry, Trump broke many laws in regards to the handling of these classified matters and he brought this investigation on himself based on how he responded to Archives and DOJ requests. It's almost as if he.........gasps.... wants the attention. Few things matter to him more than being in the headlines and getting the ratings.

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                @89th said in Yes:

                The government has been up to shenanigans far longer than 15 years. Pretty much they've always been this way. I know you knew that, but still. That's one reason folks were attracted to Trump's outside-the-beltway swamp-draining message, even though he ended up being the swamp monster itself and a beyond-expectations leader of beltway tomfoolery.

                Nonetheless, the distrust of the DOJ that you're referring to seems to be more of a branch off the lying Trump Tree that many folks have picked their news apples from. Forget all the punditry, Trump broke many laws in regards to the handling of these classified matters and he brought this investigation on himself based on how he responded to Archives and DOJ requests. It's almost as if he.........gasps.... wants the attention. Few things matter to him more than being in the headlines and getting the ratings.

                There has always been shenanigans, but you would have to go back 70 years to see the Justice Department, Treasury, and Education so heavily weaponized. Things changed when a community organizer came to the office…

                The Brad

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                • 89th8 89th

                  Trump acted like he was draining the swamp, but really he was just buying it, rebranding it Trump Swamps, and doing laps in it at night.

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                  @89th said in Yes:

                  Trump acted like he was draining the swamp, but really he was just buying it, rebranding it Trump Swamps, and doing laps in it at night.

                  Is that why he started to move government agencies out of the Beltway?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @89th said in Yes:

                    The government has been up to shenanigans far longer than 15 years. Pretty much they've always been this way. I know you knew that, but still. That's one reason folks were attracted to Trump's outside-the-beltway swamp-draining message, even though he ended up being the swamp monster itself and a beyond-expectations leader of beltway tomfoolery.

                    Nonetheless, the distrust of the DOJ that you're referring to seems to be more of a branch off the lying Trump Tree that many folks have picked their news apples from. Forget all the punditry, Trump broke many laws in regards to the handling of these classified matters and he brought this investigation on himself based on how he responded to Archives and DOJ requests. It's almost as if he.........gasps.... wants the attention. Few things matter to him more than being in the headlines and getting the ratings.

                    There has always been shenanigans, but you would have to go back 70 years to see the Justice Department, Treasury, and Education so heavily weaponized. Things changed when a community organizer came to the office…

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                    Jolly
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Yes:

                    @89th said in Yes:

                    The government has been up to shenanigans far longer than 15 years. Pretty much they've always been this way. I know you knew that, but still. That's one reason folks were attracted to Trump's outside-the-beltway swamp-draining message, even though he ended up being the swamp monster itself and a beyond-expectations leader of beltway tomfoolery.

                    Nonetheless, the distrust of the DOJ that you're referring to seems to be more of a branch off the lying Trump Tree that many folks have picked their news apples from. Forget all the punditry, Trump broke many laws in regards to the handling of these classified matters and he brought this investigation on himself based on how he responded to Archives and DOJ requests. It's almost as if he.........gasps.... wants the attention. Few things matter to him more than being in the headlines and getting the ratings.

                    There has always been shenanigans, but you would have to go back 70 years to see the Justice Department, Treasury, and Education so heavily weaponized. Things changed when a community organizer came to the office…

                    I don't think you can talk any sense to him. Some people get Trump so far into their limbic systems, to blame him for everything or to think he had control over everything while in office is an autonomic response.

                    It's sad, because the lad is not stupid.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Jon
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                      Can someone come up with a definition of swamp that wouldn’t include Paul Manafort?

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                        xenon
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                        Trump didn’t gain anything from this crime. I know that’s not a legal distinction - but it makes it hard to sell this to the public.

                        It’ll come across as another process crime, no matter how damning.

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