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  • G George K
    9 Jun 2023, 12:38

    Sounds like it was a bladder, not kidney, cancer. Those frequency present with hematuria - though, of course, so do renal tumors.

    When you say he "lost" his kidneys, I assume you mean he lost kidney function, not that the kidneys were actually removed. Perhaps a complication of the chemo.

    A kidney transplant is a relatively small, and (believe it or not) simple operation. Hook up an artery, a vein, and the ureter, and you're good to go. The fact that he no longer has a bladder might actually make it easier since the "sewing" part might be simpler for that hookup.

    OTOH, if there's lots of scarring after his big operation, things might take a bit longer.

    Regardless, best of luck to him!

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    89th
    wrote on 9 Jun 2023, 15:53 last edited by
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    @George-K said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

    Sounds like it was a bladder, not kidney, cancer. Those frequency present with hematuria - though, of course, so do renal tumors.

    When you say he "lost" his kidneys, I assume you mean he lost kidney function, not that the kidneys were actually removed. Perhaps a complication of the chemo.

    A kidney transplant is a relatively small, and (believe it or not) simple operation. Hook up an artery, a vein, and the ureter, and you're good to go. The fact that he no longer has a bladder might actually make it easier since the "sewing" part might be simpler for that hookup.

    OTOH, if there's lots of scarring after his big operation, things might take a bit longer.

    Regardless, best of luck to him!

    Thanks George. I believe one kidney was removed as part of the cancer surgery, but indeed he does still "have" the other kidney, albeit barely functioning. From what I've heard, the doctors will indeed be placing the new kidney into "an available space" inside and connecting t3h tubez (veins, etc). He'll continue to use the col bag for pee/poop so from a simple perspective, this transplant will basically allow him not to require dialysis as his (new) kidney should help filter the blood... at least until he's closer to 90.

    It's remarkable how fast the process is. 1am call... at Mayo (which is 90 minutes away) by 4am, and the procedure I think is happening as we speak (around 10-11am).

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    • J Jon
      9 Jun 2023, 13:03

      I know what it’s like to identify as a person with fully functioning organs after being assigned end stage organ disease in middle age.

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      89th
      wrote on 9 Jun 2023, 15:53 last edited by
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      @Jon said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

      I know what it’s like to identify as a person with fully functioning organs after being assigned end stage organ disease in middle age.

      Indeed! Do you take medications today, such as anti-rejection meds?

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        Jon
        wrote on 9 Jun 2023, 18:32 last edited by
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        Oh yes. Every day for the rest of my life.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 9 Jun 2023, 19:55 last edited by
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          How much did you tip the surgeon?

          The Brad

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            9 Jun 2023, 19:55

            How much did you tip the surgeon?

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 01:25 last edited by
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            @LuFins-Dad said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

            How much did you tip the surgeon?

            555 LuFins. Depends on how good the service was!

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              bachophile
              wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 03:48 last edited by
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              Best of luck. The “available space” is always the iliac fossa and the vessels connected are iliac vessels. It’s an easily accessible anatomical space and doesn’t involve messing around in the peritoenum so as far as surgery goes it’s not so morbid. The big issue is of course immunosuppressants to prevent rejections. But the quality of life is much better than dialysis.

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                brenda
                wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 04:15 last edited by
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                Congratulations to FIL for getting this opportunity. Happy for him, your MIL, and the whole family. Will be nice for your kids to have their grandpa for more years. Best wishes!

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 10:03 last edited by
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                  So how's he doing? Well, I hope.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • B bachophile
                    10 Jun 2023, 03:48

                    Best of luck. The “available space” is always the iliac fossa and the vessels connected are iliac vessels. It’s an easily accessible anatomical space and doesn’t involve messing around in the peritoenum so as far as surgery goes it’s not so morbid. The big issue is of course immunosuppressants to prevent rejections. But the quality of life is much better than dialysis.

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                    89th
                    wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 18:00 last edited by
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                    @bachophile said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

                    Best of luck. The “available space” is always the iliac fossa and the vessels connected are iliac vessels. It’s an easily accessible anatomical space and doesn’t involve messing around in the peritoenum so as far as surgery goes it’s not so morbid. The big issue is of course immunosuppressants to prevent rejections. But the quality of life is much better than dialysis.

                    Good info, thanks!

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                    • M Mik
                      10 Jun 2023, 10:03

                      So how's he doing? Well, I hope.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 18:01 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

                      So how's he doing? Well, I hope.

                      So far so good. The kidney took a bit to “take” but seems to show signs it’s settling in. They’ll stay nearby the Mayo for 3 weeks as he goes to daily appts.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 18:26 last edited by
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                        Excellent.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
                          wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 18:30 last edited by
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                          Good news indeed. Kidney transplants are a “mature” technology. I remember doing them 40(!) years ago when they were a big deal - at least from a immuno suppression standpoint. As I said, the surgery is not all that complicated.

                          Glad things went well and here’s hoping that he continues to recover.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            cathys
                            wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 19:00 last edited by
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                            Glad the surgery went well. Wishing him a quick post-op recuperation

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                              89th
                              wrote on 10 Jun 2023, 19:12 last edited by 89th 6 Oct 2023, 19:12
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                              Thanks so much! He’s a conservative like me so when we first talked after the operation I told him he had been out so long that Kamala is now President.

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                              • C cathys
                                10 Jun 2023, 19:00

                                Glad the surgery went well. Wishing him a quick post-op recuperation

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 00:43 last edited by
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                                @cathys said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

                                Glad the surgery went well. Wishing him a quick post-op recuperation

                                +1

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                                • T taiwan_girl
                                  11 Jun 2023, 00:43

                                  @cathys said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

                                  Glad the surgery went well. Wishing him a quick post-op recuperation

                                  +1

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 01:49 last edited by
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                                  @taiwan_girl said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

                                  @cathys said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

                                  Glad the surgery went well. Wishing him a quick post-op recuperation

                                  +1

                                  +2. Glad they seemed to be able to get everything done so quickly.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    mark
                                    wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 03:36 last edited by
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                                    Happy to hear things are going well for him.

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                                      10 Jun 2023, 19:12

                                      Thanks so much! He’s a conservative like me so when we first talked after the operation I told him he had been out so long that Kamala is now President.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 11:18 last edited by
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                                      @89th said in FIL is getting a trans operation:

                                      Thanks so much! He’s a conservative like me so when we first talked after the operation I told him he had been out so long that Kamala is now President.

                                      Yer out of the will.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Friday
                                        wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 20:39 last edited by
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                                        This is one trans story that I'm happy to read about.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 12 Jun 2023, 00:52 last edited by
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                                          This man loves a steak that’s still mooing. Not sure how he’s gonna take the news that he needs to order it well done, among countless other dietary restrictions right now given his suppressed immune system.

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