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Surgeon General's Advisory on Social Media and Youth Mental Health

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.hhs.gov/surgeongeneral/priorities/youth-mental-health/social-media/index.html

    So what do you folks think? Is the Surgeon General overreaching or duly performing his duty with regards to a needed public service in this instance?

    Not that it says so in the Advisory, but it got me wondering what it would be like if social media apps/websites are required to display risk labels like alcohol and tobacco products are.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      It defines excessive use as >3hrs/day.

      What do you think?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • 89th8 Online
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        I'm glad the concept is getting traction. I'm in a weird space where I didn't have social media as a kid (didn't get a cell phone until I was 22 and graduating college, nor facebook until a year or two after graduating), and my kids are too young to even know what it is.

        But know the storm is coming... the pressures, the fights, the issues with kids as they grow old enough to go online. I'm glad the concept is getting traction now to try to mitigate the mental health issues that can come from kids and the internet.

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          We're far past the point where this debate even needs to be had. There's no way that apps designed to hack your limbic system into staying online for as long as possible are in any way good for you.

          What people need are effective strategies. The ones outlined on the SG site are a bit crap.

          High school fundamentally changed for me when I started working. I had a social group, environment, set of responsibilities and things I could learn that were entirely independent from school life. It made everything about school smaller and less personal because it stopped being my whole world.

          Kids need alternatives that have nothing to do with social media. They need to get involved in real things that have no internet component to them. It puts all the online crap into its proper perspective.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            We're far past the point where this debate even needs to be had. There's no way that apps designed to hack your limbic system into staying online for as long as possible are in any way good for you.

            What people need are effective strategies. The ones outlined on the SG site are a bit crap.

            High school fundamentally changed for me when I started working. I had a social group, environment, set of responsibilities and things I could learn that were entirely independent from school life. It made everything about school smaller and less personal because it stopped being my whole world.

            Kids need alternatives that have nothing to do with social media. They need to get involved in real things that have no internet component to them. It puts all the online crap into its proper perspective.

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Surgeon General's Advisory on Social Media and Youth Mental Health:

            We're far past the point where this debate even needs to be had. There's no way that apps designed to hack your limbic system into staying online for as long as possible are in any way good for you.

            What people need are effective strategies. The ones outlined on the SG site are a bit crap.

            High school fundamentally changed for me when I started working. I had a social group, environment, set of responsibilities and things I could learn that were entirely independent from school life. It made everything about school smaller and less personal because it stopped being my whole world.

            Kids need alternatives that have nothing to do with social media. They need to get involved in real things that have no internet component to them. It puts all the online crap into its proper perspective.

            Sports, marching band, church, drama club, etc. And it never hurt a teenage kid - even those as young as thirteen or fourteen to have a little business from raking yards to whatever they are capable of doing. Once they start driving, whatever PT jobs they can find.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Away
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              Yep. The very last thing you want is a kid with too much time on their hands. But there's a just enough free range that is healthy. We were completely free range. Our parents had no idea if we were within five miles of home.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                It defines excessive use as >3hrs/day.

                What do you think?

                AxtremusA Offline
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                @Jolly said in Surgeon General's Advisory on Social Media and Youth Mental Health:

                It defines excessive use as >3hrs/day.

                What do you think?

                3 hrs out of 24 hrs per day translates to 1/8 of your life. Yeah, that's a defensible threshold for "excessive."

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                • MikM Mik

                  Yep. The very last thing you want is a kid with too much time on their hands. But there's a just enough free range that is healthy. We were completely free range. Our parents had no idea if we were within five miles of home.

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                  @Mik said in Surgeon General's Advisory on Social Media and Youth Mental Health:

                  Yep. The very last thing you want is a kid with too much time on their hands. But there's a just enough free range that is healthy. We were completely free range. Our parents had no idea if we were within five miles of home.

                  Same. It's a fine line today, though. Where we live, it's normal to see kids out and about on their own, but just up the road, it's not unlikely to have the cops called, maybe a social worker visit, who the hell knows. Nextdoor posts alone can practically draw you a Karen Line of Demarkation.

                  Please love yourself.

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