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    Jolly
    wrote on 19 May 2023, 12:58 last edited by
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    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/speaker-mccarthys-secret-weapon-debt-ceiling-negotiations-paying-off

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Mik
      wrote on 19 May 2023, 13:20 last edited by Mik
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      Yup. And it's damn well about time the GOP started getting serious about spending cuts.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        xenon
        wrote on 19 May 2023, 17:31 last edited by
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        I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

        A little rich to come in now all concerned.

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          xenon
          wrote on 19 May 2023, 17:37 last edited by
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            19 May 2023, 17:31

            I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

            A little rich to come in now all concerned.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 19 May 2023, 18:20 last edited by
            #5

            @xenon said in Words From Newt:

            I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

            A little rich to come in now all concerned.

            Well, sapphire, you want it now or none at all?

            That's your choices. Pick one.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Mik
              wrote on 19 May 2023, 18:22 last edited by
              #6

              The piper will have to be paid eventually.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Jolly
                wrote on 19 May 2023, 18:30 last edited by
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                If the COVID emergency is over, why is Biden's deficit so high?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  19 May 2023, 18:20

                  @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                  I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

                  A little rich to come in now all concerned.

                  Well, sapphire, you want it now or none at all?

                  That's your choices. Pick one.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 19 May 2023, 18:31 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                  @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                  I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

                  A little rich to come in now all concerned.

                  Well, sapphire, you want it now or none at all?

                  That's your choices. Pick one.

                  It doesn't matter what I want. I'm just making the observation that the GOP stance is hilariously phony.

                  This new populist strain of the GOP is just as spend-happy as Dems now, and is play acting conservatism in this instance for the theater of it.

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                  • X xenon
                    19 May 2023, 18:31

                    @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                    @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                    I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

                    A little rich to come in now all concerned.

                    Well, sapphire, you want it now or none at all?

                    That's your choices. Pick one.

                    It doesn't matter what I want. I'm just making the observation that the GOP stance is hilariously phony.

                    This new populist strain of the GOP is just as spend-happy as Dems now, and is play acting conservatism in this instance for the theater of it.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 19 May 2023, 18:42 last edited by
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                    @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                    @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                    @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                    I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

                    A little rich to come in now all concerned.

                    Well, sapphire, you want it now or none at all?

                    That's your choices. Pick one.

                    It doesn't matter what I want. I'm just making the observation that the GOP stance is hilariously phony.

                    This new populist strain of the GOP is just as spend-happy as Dems now, and is play acting conservatism in this instance for the theater of it.

                    No, answer the question, It's not rocket surgery and it doesn't require obfuscation.

                    Politics is the art of the possible. Cutting spending is a possibility right now. Do you want it or not?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      19 May 2023, 18:42

                      @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                      @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                      @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                      I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

                      A little rich to come in now all concerned.

                      Well, sapphire, you want it now or none at all?

                      That's your choices. Pick one.

                      It doesn't matter what I want. I'm just making the observation that the GOP stance is hilariously phony.

                      This new populist strain of the GOP is just as spend-happy as Dems now, and is play acting conservatism in this instance for the theater of it.

                      No, answer the question, It's not rocket surgery and it doesn't require obfuscation.

                      Politics is the art of the possible. Cutting spending is a possibility right now. Do you want it or not?

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 19 May 2023, 18:46 last edited by xenon
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                      @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                      @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                      @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                      @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                      I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

                      A little rich to come in now all concerned.

                      Well, sapphire, you want it now or none at all?

                      That's your choices. Pick one.

                      It doesn't matter what I want. I'm just making the observation that the GOP stance is hilariously phony.

                      This new populist strain of the GOP is just as spend-happy as Dems now, and is play acting conservatism in this instance for the theater of it.

                      No, answer the question, It's not rocket surgery and it doesn't require obfuscation.

                      Politics is the art of the possible. Cutting spending is a possibility right now. Do you want it or not?

                      I'd love a smaller government. But in this instance? No.

                      I think the risk of brinksmanship on the creditworthiness of the United States and is not worth any modest spending "wins" that'll be achieved for theatre.

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                      • J Jolly
                        19 May 2023, 18:42

                        @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                        @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                        @xenon said in Words From Newt:

                        I think the GOP lost a lot of credibility on fiscal responsibility when they piled on more debt while the economy was doing great. That's exactly when the bills should have been paid.

                        A little rich to come in now all concerned.

                        Well, sapphire, you want it now or none at all?

                        That's your choices. Pick one.

                        It doesn't matter what I want. I'm just making the observation that the GOP stance is hilariously phony.

                        This new populist strain of the GOP is just as spend-happy as Dems now, and is play acting conservatism in this instance for the theater of it.

                        No, answer the question, It's not rocket surgery and it doesn't require obfuscation.

                        Politics is the art of the possible. Cutting spending is a possibility right now. Do you want it or not?

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 20 May 2023, 00:13 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                        Politics is the art of the possible. Cutting spending is a possibility right now.

                        Was cutting spending not possible when the GOP had control of the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives?

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 20 May 2023, 00:18 last edited by
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                          I thought deficits didn’t matter. Or is that just when we need a war?

                          I was only joking

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 20 May 2023, 01:24 last edited by
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                            Again, shitheads, politics is the art of the possible. You can cut or not.

                            It's a binary choice.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • J Jolly
                              20 May 2023, 01:24

                              Again, shitheads, politics is the art of the possible. You can cut or not.

                              It's a binary choice.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 20 May 2023, 01:52 last edited by
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                              @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                              ... politics is the art of the possible. You can cut or not.

                              It's a binary choice.

                              The GOP kept choosing not to when they could.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 20 May 2023, 03:24 last edited by
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                                Doesn't matter what was, it is what is.
                                Choose.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • J Jolly
                                  20 May 2023, 03:24

                                  Doesn't matter what was, it is what is.
                                  Choose.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 20 May 2023, 03:49 last edited by
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                                  @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                                  Doesn't matter what was, ...

                                  Those who don't learn from history ....

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    20 May 2023, 01:24

                                    Again, shitheads, politics is the art of the possible. You can cut or not.

                                    It's a binary choice.

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                                    Rainman
                                    wrote on 20 May 2023, 04:23 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                                    Again, shitheads, politics is the art of the possible. You can cut or not.

                                    It's a binary choice.

                                    I must be missing something, Jolly is never (or at least hardly ever) so rude to the general members of the forum.
                                    Are you OK, man?

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                                    • R Rainman
                                      20 May 2023, 04:23

                                      @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                                      Again, shitheads, politics is the art of the possible. You can cut or not.

                                      It's a binary choice.

                                      I must be missing something, Jolly is never (or at least hardly ever) so rude to the general members of the forum.
                                      Are you OK, man?

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 20 May 2023, 12:07 last edited by
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                                      @Rainman said in Words From Newt:

                                      @Jolly said in Words From Newt:

                                      Again, shitheads, politics is the art of the possible. You can cut or not.

                                      It's a binary choice.

                                      I must be missing something, Jolly is never (or at least hardly ever) so rude to the general members of the forum.
                                      Are you OK, man?

                                      Quite fine.

                                      I'm not in the mood for idiocy. And this is shear idiocy. In politics, you take what you can get, when you can get it. Right now, leverage exists in order to wrangle some spending cuts. Nail Biden's hide to the wall and get your cuts.

                                      Never look a gift horse in the mouth.

                                      The rest of this harumph!, harumph!, is just horseshit. Smoke and policy mirrors. People complaining if you hung them with a new rope type of stuff.

                                      Oh, but in the first reign of the Sun King a shadow was cast on the Eastern-most sundial kinda stuff. Water under the bridge. Sound and fury, signifying nothing. This is politics and it plays by its own rules.

                                      People (mostly Dems) didn't understand when Trump threw off the remark the other night about leverage over the default. What he was saying, is that it's politics and you take advantage of your negotiating positions.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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