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"First we get the money..."

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    George K
    wrote on 18 May 2023, 00:20 last edited by George K
    #1

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 18 May 2023, 00:48 last edited by
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      Civic suicide.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        18 May 2023, 00:48

        Civic suicide.

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        George K
        wrote on 18 May 2023, 00:50 last edited by
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        @Mik said in "First we get the money...":

        Civic suicide.

        There's also talk about a "wealth" tax.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Mik
          wrote on 18 May 2023, 01:09 last edited by
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          Great. so ALL the money leaves.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 18 May 2023, 01:36 last edited by
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            The mayor is “distancing himself” from the plan, says Crain’s.

            That’s a relief.

            I wonder what impediments, if any, prevent a municipality from instituting wealth taxes or transaction taxes. I’d imagine the taxing authority of cities, counties, and towns is defined by state statute, but I could be wrong.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 18 May 2023, 03:21 last edited by
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              Billy Joel moved out...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                18 May 2023, 03:21

                Billy Joel moved out...

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 18 May 2023, 03:34 last edited by
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                @Jolly

                He was so worried about the plan of the Chicago's mayor's friends that he left Republican-run Long Island?

                And he was so extra worried about it that he left even before the they released the plans?

                Damn, sing us a song, piano man.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J jon-nyc
                  18 May 2023, 01:36

                  The mayor is “distancing himself” from the plan, says Crain’s.

                  That’s a relief.

                  I wonder what impediments, if any, prevent a municipality from instituting wealth taxes or transaction taxes. I’d imagine the taxing authority of cities, counties, and towns is defined by state statute, but I could be wrong.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 18 May 2023, 10:59 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in "First we get the money...":

                  The mayor is “distancing himself” from the plan, says Crain’s.

                  That’s a relief.

                  I wonder what impediments, if any, prevent a municipality from instituting wealth taxes or transaction taxes. I’d imagine the taxing authority of cities, counties, and towns is defined by state statute, but I could be wrong.

                  I know there are such things in Ohio. For instance, I live in a township, which is not allowed by law to impose an income tax. I'd bet you are correct.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    18 May 2023, 10:59

                    @jon-nyc said in "First we get the money...":

                    The mayor is “distancing himself” from the plan, says Crain’s.

                    That’s a relief.

                    I wonder what impediments, if any, prevent a municipality from instituting wealth taxes or transaction taxes. I’d imagine the taxing authority of cities, counties, and towns is defined by state statute, but I could be wrong.

                    I know there are such things in Ohio. For instance, I live in a township, which is not allowed by law to impose an income tax. I'd bet you are correct.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 18 May 2023, 11:32 last edited by
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                    @Mik Right? It seems like otherwise there’d be some little villages somewhere experimenting with all kinds of ruinous schemes.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      18 May 2023, 03:34

                      @Jolly

                      He was so worried about the plan of the Chicago's mayor's friends that he left Republican-run Long Island?

                      And he was so extra worried about it that he left even before the they released the plans?

                      Damn, sing us a song, piano man.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 18 May 2023, 11:44 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in "First we get the money...":

                      @Jolly

                      He was so worried about the plan of the Chicago's mayor's friends that he left Republican-run Long Island?

                      And he was so extra worried about it that he left even before the they released the plans?

                      Damn, sing us a song, piano man.

                      Nope, just a general observation about taxation and people.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 18 May 2023, 11:58 last edited by
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                        The funny thing about people with money is they CAN move. It would seem Chicago is determined to repeat the mistakes of Detroit, which was also once a great city.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 18 May 2023, 14:44 last edited by
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                          Do we need Chicago?

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 18 May 2023, 16:31 last edited by
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                            Ever since they renamed the Sears tower it’s been dead to me.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • M Mik
                              18 May 2023, 11:58

                              The funny thing about people with money is they CAN move. It would seem Chicago is determined to repeat the mistakes of Detroit, which was also once a great city.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 18 May 2023, 16:51 last edited by
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                              @Mik said in "First we get the money...":

                              The funny thing about people with money is they CAN move. It would seem Chicago is determined to repeat the mistakes of Detroit, which was also once a great city.

                              Money is like water and will find its own level.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                18 May 2023, 11:44

                                @jon-nyc said in "First we get the money...":

                                @Jolly

                                He was so worried about the plan of the Chicago's mayor's friends that he left Republican-run Long Island?

                                And he was so extra worried about it that he left even before the they released the plans?

                                Damn, sing us a song, piano man.

                                Nope, just a general observation about taxation and people.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 18 May 2023, 17:25 last edited by
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                                @Jolly said in "First we get the money...":

                                @jon-nyc said in "First we get the money...":

                                @Jolly

                                He was so worried about the plan of the Chicago's mayor's friends that he left Republican-run Long Island?

                                And he was so extra worried about it that he left even before the they released the plans?

                                Damn, sing us a song, piano man.

                                Nope, just a general observation about taxation and people.

                                Don't just think only about "cost", think also about "revenue." Doesn't matter if a place assesses zero tax, no one wants to be there if there is no money to be made despite their having zero tax rate.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  18 May 2023, 16:31

                                  Ever since they renamed the Sears tower it’s been dead to me.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 18 May 2023, 17:36 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in "First we get the money...":

                                  Ever since they renamed the Sears tower it’s been dead to me.

                                  You know they renamed Lake Shore Drive too - now it's "DuSable Lake Shore Drive."

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 18 May 2023, 17:39 last edited by
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                                    If I ever go back to Chicago it will only be to take a dump on Michigan Avenue.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • G George K
                                      18 May 2023, 17:36

                                      @jon-nyc said in "First we get the money...":

                                      Ever since they renamed the Sears tower it’s been dead to me.

                                      You know they renamed Lake Shore Drive too - now it's "DuSable Lake Shore Drive."

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 18 May 2023, 17:42 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in "First we get the money...":

                                      @jon-nyc said in "First we get the money...":

                                      Ever since they renamed the Sears tower it’s been dead to me.

                                      You know they renamed Lake Shore Drive too - now it's "DuSable Lake Shore Drive."

                                      The French fur trader? Really?

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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