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30% detransition rate

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 16 May 2023, 13:15 last edited by
    #1

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Jolly
      wrote on 16 May 2023, 13:17 last edited by
      #2

      Without the current societal support, I suspect that figure would be much higher.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 16 May 2023, 14:41 last edited by
        #3

        Let the blathering and nitpicking begin….

        The Brad

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        • L LuFins Dad
          16 May 2023, 14:41

          Let the blathering and nitpicking begin….

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 16 May 2023, 15:00 last edited by
          #4

          @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

          Let the blathering and nitpicking begin….

          Not to devalue your contribution to this august organization, but one could post that as a response to every single thread on this board.

          In fact, I have a mind to do exactly that!

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            16 May 2023, 15:00

            @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

            Let the blathering and nitpicking begin….

            Not to devalue your contribution to this august organization, but one could post that as a response to every single thread on this board.

            In fact, I have a mind to do exactly that!

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            Mik
            wrote on 16 May 2023, 15:05 last edited by
            #5

            @Doctor-Phibes you may well do that, but as to you having a mind, well....

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              16 May 2023, 15:00

              @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

              Let the blathering and nitpicking begin….

              Not to devalue your contribution to this august organization, but one could post that as a response to every single thread on this board.

              In fact, I have a mind to do exactly that!

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 16 May 2023, 15:08 last edited by
              #6

              @Doctor-Phibes said in 30% detransition rate:

              @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

              Let the blathering and nitpicking begin….

              Not to devalue your contribution to this august organization, but one could post that as a response to every single thread on this board.

              In fact, I have a mind to do exactly that!

              Oh, I don’t think on here. We actually seem to have some general consensus on this issue on TNNCR. I mean in the general media and social media.

              As the original Twitter post stated, this will be a Rorschach Test. People will make of it what they want it to say…

              The Brad

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              • L LuFins Dad
                16 May 2023, 15:08

                @Doctor-Phibes said in 30% detransition rate:

                @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

                Let the blathering and nitpicking begin….

                Not to devalue your contribution to this august organization, but one could post that as a response to every single thread on this board.

                In fact, I have a mind to do exactly that!

                Oh, I don’t think on here. We actually seem to have some general consensus on this issue on TNNCR. I mean in the general media and social media.

                As the original Twitter post stated, this will be a Rorschach Test. People will make of it what they want it to say…

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 16 May 2023, 15:14 last edited by
                #7

                @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

                Oh, I don’t think on here. We actually seem to have some general consensus on this issue on TNNCR.

                That's not necessarily true. Just because I, or others, don't argue about certain subjects doesn't mean we all agree.

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  16 May 2023, 15:14

                  @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

                  Oh, I don’t think on here. We actually seem to have some general consensus on this issue on TNNCR.

                  That's not necessarily true. Just because I, or others, don't argue about certain subjects doesn't mean we all agree.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 16 May 2023, 15:31 last edited by
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in 30% detransition rate:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

                  Oh, I don’t think on here. We actually seem to have some general consensus on this issue on TNNCR.

                  That's not necessarily true. Just because I, or others, don't argue about certain subjects doesn't mean we all agree.

                  Nobody judges you for being unable to formulate your feels into the written word.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • M Mik
                    16 May 2023, 15:05

                    @Doctor-Phibes you may well do that, but as to you having a mind, well....

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 16 May 2023, 16:12 last edited by
                    #9

                    @Mik said in 30% detransition rate:

                    @Doctor-Phibes you may well do that, but as to you having a mind, well....

                    Hey, he's got two!

                    One's lost and the other is out looking for it...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • H Horace
                      16 May 2023, 15:31

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in 30% detransition rate:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

                      Oh, I don’t think on here. We actually seem to have some general consensus on this issue on TNNCR.

                      That's not necessarily true. Just because I, or others, don't argue about certain subjects doesn't mean we all agree.

                      Nobody judges you for being unable to formulate your feels into the written word.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 16 May 2023, 16:59 last edited by
                      #10

                      @Horace said in 30% detransition rate:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in 30% detransition rate:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

                      Oh, I don’t think on here. We actually seem to have some general consensus on this issue on TNNCR.

                      That's not necessarily true. Just because I, or others, don't argue about certain subjects doesn't mean we all agree.

                      Nobody judges you for being unable to formulate your feels into the written word.

                      I honestly really don't know much at all about the subject, presumably unlike everybody else here.

                      I'm sure Joe Rogan or some other super-qualified person could set me straight, but really there's only so many hours in the day.

                      I was only joking

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 17 May 2023, 00:03 last edited by
                        #11

                        Am I reading the study right? Is this 30% de trans among ADULTS?

                        The Brad

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          17 May 2023, 00:03

                          Am I reading the study right? Is this 30% de trans among ADULTS?

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 17 May 2023, 00:06 last edited by jon-nyc
                          #12

                          @LuFins-Dad I think so, it’s people who transitioned under MHS, the Military Health System. Though I suppose it might include dependents. I’d need to open the paper.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            17 May 2023, 00:06

                            @LuFins-Dad I think so, it’s people who transitioned under MHS, the Military Health System. Though I suppose it might include dependents. I’d need to open the paper.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 17 May 2023, 00:43 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in 30% detransition rate:

                            @LuFins-Dad I think so, it’s people who transitioned under MHS, the Military Health System. Though I suppose it might include dependents. I’d need to open the paper.

                            If you have +18 year olds detransitioning at that rate, it’s far more damning.

                            The Brad

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              16 May 2023, 16:59

                              @Horace said in 30% detransition rate:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in 30% detransition rate:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in 30% detransition rate:

                              Oh, I don’t think on here. We actually seem to have some general consensus on this issue on TNNCR.

                              That's not necessarily true. Just because I, or others, don't argue about certain subjects doesn't mean we all agree.

                              Nobody judges you for being unable to formulate your feels into the written word.

                              I honestly really don't know much at all about the subject, presumably unlike everybody else here.

                              I'm sure Joe Rogan or some other super-qualified person could set me straight, but really there's only so many hours in the day.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 17 May 2023, 00:43 last edited by
                              #14

                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              I honestly really don't know much at all about the subject, presumably unlike everybody else here.

                              I nothing about the topic. Not only is it of no interest to me, I do not care about the topic or how others are affected by it. Not an issue.

                              Elbows up!

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 17 May 2023, 00:50 last edited by jon-nyc
                                #15

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                I clicked through.

                                These were mostly adolescents. Children and spouses of active military. Average age 19.2, with 95% within +/- 5.3 years of the average. Cohort was from 2009-2018

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  17 May 2023, 00:43

                                  @Doctor-Phibes

                                  I honestly really don't know much at all about the subject, presumably unlike everybody else here.

                                  I nothing about the topic. Not only is it of no interest to me, I do not care about the topic or how others are affected by it. Not an issue.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 17 May 2023, 01:50 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @Renauda said in 30% detransition rate:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes

                                  I honestly really don't know much at all about the subject, presumably unlike everybody else here.

                                  I nothing about the topic. Not only is it of no interest to me, I do not care about the topic or how others are affected by it. Not an issue.

                                  I think you are effected by it, just like everybody else. This current madness is changing laws and possibly ruining a generation.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    17 May 2023, 01:50

                                    @Renauda said in 30% detransition rate:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes

                                    I honestly really don't know much at all about the subject, presumably unlike everybody else here.

                                    I nothing about the topic. Not only is it of no interest to me, I do not care about the topic or how others are affected by it. Not an issue.

                                    I think you are effected by it, just like everybody else. This current madness is changing laws and possibly ruining a generation.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 17 May 2023, 03:30 last edited by Renauda
                                    #17

                                    @Jolly

                                    If I am affected by it, I am not noticing it. Doesn’t seem to be affecting my teenager either. Never been a topic of discussion in our house. I guess that like me, he probably doesn’t care enough about it to get involved with it and/or make it an issue.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 17 May 2023, 11:38 last edited by George K
                                      #18

                                      I was too lazy to click on the link, so bear with.

                                      What did this "transition" involve? Was it hormonal therapy? Surgery? Or was it just cross-dressing with tuckers (shut up) and binders (shut up again)?

                                      If hormonal and surgical, these folks are in for a very rough life.

                                      Never mind, I looked. Hormonal. Had anyone looked at the long-term effects of temporary hormonal "transitioning" therapy? How reversible is it? My guess would be not very.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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