Anybody watching CNN besides me?
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@jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.
I didn't watch...
I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.
I didn't watch...
I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?
@George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
@jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.
I didn't watch...
I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?
I did not hear him say that.
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@jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.
I didn't watch...
I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?
@George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
@jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.
I didn't watch...
I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?
I think he might be willing to give up more of Ukraine than I would, but to expect him to carve out a position on a yet to be entered negotiation is asking him to be stupid.
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One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support
@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support
That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.
Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.
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@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support
That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.
Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.
@Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support
That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.
Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.
If Germany can't step forward, who can?
Just a note on a related subject...The most popular boy's name in Germany last year was Mohammed. In the eternal balancing act between guns & butter and considering Germany's view of the military since WW2, has the equation slid so far towards social services that Germany can no longer field an effective military? Or pay for its own defense?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support
That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.
Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.
If Germany can't step forward, who can?
Just a note on a related subject...The most popular boy's name in Germany last year was Mohammed. In the eternal balancing act between guns & butter and considering Germany's view of the military since WW2, has the equation slid so far towards social services that Germany can no longer field an effective military? Or pay for its own defense?
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@Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support
That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.
Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.
If Germany can't step forward, who can?
Just a note on a related subject...The most popular boy's name in Germany last year was Mohammed. In the eternal balancing act between guns & butter and considering Germany's view of the military since WW2, has the equation slid so far towards social services that Germany can no longer field an effective military? Or pay for its own defense?
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Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.
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Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.
@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.
The cynical side of me would suggest that this might have all been about ratings and money....
*“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”
- HL Mencken*
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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If Germany can't step forward, who can?
Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.
@Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
If Germany can't step forward, who can?
Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.
Interesting. We've grown up seeing them as a relatively powerless nation, which is not at all what they originally were.
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@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.
The cynical side of me would suggest that this might have all been about ratings and money....
*“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”
- HL Mencken*
@George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.
The cynical side of me would suggest that this might have all been about ratings and money....
*“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”
- HL Mencken*
I think it serves two purposes:
- Ratings
- It gives an appearence of at least trying to be a little less biased.
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@George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
@Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.
The cynical side of me would suggest that this might have all been about ratings and money....
*“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”
- HL Mencken*
I think it serves two purposes:
- Ratings
- It gives an appearence of at least trying to be a little less biased.
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@Mik said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
@Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:
If Germany can't step forward, who can?
Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.
Interesting. We've grown up seeing them as a relatively powerless nation, which is not at all what they originally were.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/europes-centre-of-gravity-is-shifting-towards-poland/
Elbows up!
