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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      @jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

      Yep. And some Republican ones, too.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

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        @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

        One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

        That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.

        Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

          One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

          That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.

          Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.

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          @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

          @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

          One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

          That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.

          Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.

          If Germany can't step forward, who can?

          Just a note on a related subject...The most popular boy's name in Germany last year was Mohammed. In the eternal balancing act between guns & butter and considering Germany's view of the military since WW2, has the equation slid so far towards social services that Germany can no longer field an effective military? Or pay for its own defense?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

            @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

            One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

            That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.

            Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.

            If Germany can't step forward, who can?

            Just a note on a related subject...The most popular boy's name in Germany last year was Mohammed. In the eternal balancing act between guns & butter and considering Germany's view of the military since WW2, has the equation slid so far towards social services that Germany can no longer field an effective military? Or pay for its own defense?

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            @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

            Germany can no longer field an effective military

            @Klaus has been saying that for a decade.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

              @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

              One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

              That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.

              Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.

              If Germany can't step forward, who can?

              Just a note on a related subject...The most popular boy's name in Germany last year was Mohammed. In the eternal balancing act between guns & butter and considering Germany's view of the military since WW2, has the equation slid so far towards social services that Germany can no longer field an effective military? Or pay for its own defense?

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              @Jolly

              If Germany can't step forward, who can?

              Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.

              Elbows up!

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                Back to the Town Hall....

                The Left, including much of the staff at CNN, is going absolutely nuts today. It is both unsettling and inspiring to watch.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/cnn-s-chaotic-trump-town-hall-broadcast-draws-3-1-million-viewers/ar-AA1b3Vyo?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W129&cvid=f547c25178ee4174a17017eb05db241e&ei=18

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/cnn-s-chaotic-trump-town-hall-broadcast-draws-3-1-million-viewers/ar-AA1b3Vyo?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W129&cvid=f547c25178ee4174a17017eb05db241e&ei=18

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                    George K
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                    @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                    Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.

                    The cynical side of me would suggest that this might have all been about ratings and money....

                    *“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”

                    - HL Mencken*

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @Jolly

                      If Germany can't step forward, who can?

                      Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.

                      MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
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                      @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                      @Jolly

                      If Germany can't step forward, who can?

                      Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.

                      Interesting. We've grown up seeing them as a relatively powerless nation, which is not at all what they originally were.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                        Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.

                        The cynical side of me would suggest that this might have all been about ratings and money....

                        *“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”

                        - HL Mencken*

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #27

                        @George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                        @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                        Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.

                        The cynical side of me would suggest that this might have all been about ratings and money....

                        *“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”

                        - HL Mencken*

                        I think it serves two purposes:

                        1. Ratings
                        2. It gives an appearence of at least trying to be a little less biased.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                          @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                          Well, they must have watched. Trump almost quadrupled CNN's ratings.

                          The cynical side of me would suggest that this might have all been about ratings and money....

                          *“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”

                          - HL Mencken*

                          I think it serves two purposes:

                          1. Ratings
                          2. It gives an appearence of at least trying to be a little less biased.
                          MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
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                          #28

                          @Jolly emphasis on number 1.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            Renauda
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                            @Mik said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                            @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                            @Jolly

                            If Germany can't step forward, who can?

                            Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.

                            Interesting. We've grown up seeing them as a relatively powerless nation, which is not at all what they originally were.

                            https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/europes-centre-of-gravity-is-shifting-towards-poland/

                            Elbows up!

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Okay.

                              Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                              His campaign may be called off.

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                              @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                              Okay.

                              Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                              His campaign may be called off.

                              Word amongst whom? Trump supporters? Sounds a bit like wishful thinking

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                Okay.

                                Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                                His campaign may be called off.

                                Word amongst whom? Trump supporters? Sounds a bit like wishful thinking

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                                Jolly
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                Okay.

                                Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                                His campaign may be called off.

                                Word amongst whom? Trump supporters? Sounds a bit like wishful thinking

                                I read that on a couple of different political sites. Maybe it's all smoke. Or maybe DeSantis is weighing his options.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @Mik said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                  @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                  @Jolly

                                  If Germany can't step forward, who can?

                                  Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.

                                  Interesting. We've grown up seeing them as a relatively powerless nation, which is not at all what they originally were.

                                  https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/europes-centre-of-gravity-is-shifting-towards-poland/

                                  MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
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                                  #32

                                  @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                  @Mik said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                  @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                  @Jolly

                                  If Germany can't step forward, who can?

                                  Actually Poland is trying hard to become the other continental power.

                                  Interesting. We've grown up seeing them as a relatively powerless nation, which is not at all what they originally were.

                                  https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/europes-centre-of-gravity-is-shifting-towards-poland/

                                  Good article. Thanks!

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                    @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                    Okay.

                                    Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                                    His campaign may be called off.

                                    Word amongst whom? Trump supporters? Sounds a bit like wishful thinking

                                    I read that on a couple of different political sites. Maybe it's all smoke. Or maybe DeSantis is weighing his options.

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                                    @Jolly

                                    Fish or cut bait or….. out of the corner like Jake LaMotta Rocky Marciano.

                                    Am hoping that Trump gets his nose bloodied, and bloodied good.

                                    I can just see Trump shadow boxing at the end.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @Jolly

                                      Fish or cut bait or….. out of the corner like Jake LaMotta Rocky Marciano.

                                      Am hoping that Trump gets his nose bloodied, and bloodied good.

                                      I can just see Trump shadow boxing at the end.

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                                      @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                      @Jolly

                                      Fish or cut bait or….. out of the corner like Jake LaMotta Rocky Marciano.

                                      Am hoping that Trump gets his nose bloodied, and bloodied good.

                                      I can just see Trump shadow boxing at the end.

                                      Economy.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        George K
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                                        LOL:

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          CNN and Cuck News...

                                          https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2023/05/11/nolte-trumps-glorious-town-hall-performance-mightve-delivered-the-final-killshot-to-cnn/

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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