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  • CopperC Copper

    @Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

    If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter

    If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter

    blah, blah, blah

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    Axtremus
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    #12

    @Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

    @Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

    If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter

    If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter

    Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

      @Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

      If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter

      If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter

      Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.

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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #13

      @Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

      Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.

      There is still such a thing as "broken gun" where the gun matters not.

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        Jolly
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        #14

        What if the father had also been armed?

        Just as a thought exercise...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Jolly
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          #15

          But back to reality...

          I suspect at the bottom of this is a mental health issue. It's going to be a very contentious debate defining at what stage of mental illness one cannot own firearms (right now, you have to be adjudicated mentally ill), but that's going to be the common ground between the gun grabbers and the 2nd Amendment guys.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            George K
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            "Texan Illegal alien who had been deported before killed 5 neighbors..."

            FIFY

            https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-releases-new-photos-fugitive-accused-fatally-shooting-5-neighbors-texas

            Oropesa is in the country illegally and has been deported perviously, an ICE source told Fox News Digital. He has re-entered the U.S. illegally "multiple" times and ICE last encountered him in 2016, the course said.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              "Texan Illegal alien who had been deported before killed 5 neighbors..."

              FIFY

              https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-releases-new-photos-fugitive-accused-fatally-shooting-5-neighbors-texas

              Oropesa is in the country illegally and has been deported perviously, an ICE source told Fox News Digital. He has re-entered the U.S. illegally "multiple" times and ICE last encountered him in 2016, the course said.

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              Jolly
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              #17

              @George-K said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

              "Texan Illegal alien who had been deported before killed 5 neighbors..."

              FIFY

              https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-releases-new-photos-fugitive-accused-fatally-shooting-5-neighbors-texas

              Oropesa is in the country illegally and has been deported perviously, an ICE source told Fox News Digital. He has re-entered the U.S. illegally "multiple" times and ICE last encountered him in 2016, the course said.

              Watch this story die the death of a woodpecker in the MSM....

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

                @Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

                If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter

                If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter

                Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.

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                Jolly
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                @Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

                @Copper said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

                @Axtremus said in Texan killed 5 neighbors with AR-15 including a child:

                If there is no gun, the willingness to use one would not matter

                If there is no willingness to use one, the gun would not matter

                Not so, there is still such a thing as "unintentional discharge" where "willingness" matters not.

                Well, well, well...Tell us again how well that open border thing is working out for you.

                While you're at it, might want to explain it to the victim's family...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jolly
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                  #19

                  BTW, some outlets are reporting the shooter was deported three times, not just once.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Jolly
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                    #20

                    And...Deputies had already been to see the guy about shooting in his yard...

                    https://abc7chicago.com/amp/francisco-oropeza-cleveland-texas-shooting-shooter/13195996/

                    Why didn't the deputies know he was an illegal?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      George K
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                      Apprehended.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        My question is the same as Jolly’s. How did an illegal have an AR-15? I suspect he didn’t buy it legally. Gun laws wouldn’t do a damn thing for this. Border security would have.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Jolly
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                          It's not just that he had an AR-15 illegally. When the deputies talked to him, why wasn't his illegal immigrant status known by them?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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