In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak
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wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 14:11 last edited by
yeah, because politics is so much more important than providing accurate information.
GMAFB.
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@wtg , Loki
So she hasn’t really gotten going yet and is looking for funding? Its kind of a weird piece. Horribly reported.
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Still, Jolly - it would be a really, really bad move to fire him. It would give more ammunition to those who say he doesn't listen to the scientists and would shake up an already scared population. This is a situation where a steady hand is needed, not management by chaos.
wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 14:50 last edited by@Mik said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Still, Jolly - it would be a really, really bad move to fire him. It would give more ammunition to those who say he doesn't listen to the scientists and would shake up an already scared population. This is a situation where a steady hand is needed, not management by chaos.
He's not going to fire him, but I think you'll see Fauci backtrack at today's briefing.
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wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 14:54 last edited by
@mark said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
yeah, because politics is so much more important than providing accurate information.
GMAFB.
Your ignorance is either feigned or you are extremely naive. I don't think you are either.
Any thinking person knows that to effectively govern in times like these, you cannot have hugely mixed messages to the public. These things are hammered out behind closed doors.
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@mark said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
yeah, because politics is so much more important than providing accurate information.
GMAFB.
Your ignorance is either feigned or you are extremely naive. I don't think you are either.
Any thinking person knows that to effectively govern in times like these, you cannot have hugely mixed messages to the public. These things are hammered out behind closed doors.
wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 14:57 last edited by@Jolly said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Any thinking person knows that to effectively govern in times like these, you cannot have hugely mixed messages to the public. These things are hammered out behind closed doors.
Both the media and the current administration have been nothing but mixed messages, from January to March.
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@Jolly said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Any thinking person knows that to effectively govern in times like these, you cannot have hugely mixed messages to the public. These things are hammered out behind closed doors.
Both the media and the current administration have been nothing but mixed messages, from January to March.
wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 15:04 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
@Jolly said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Any thinking person knows that to effectively govern in times like these, you cannot have hugely mixed messages to the public. These things are hammered out behind closed doors.
Both the media and the current administration have been nothing but mixed messages, from January to March.
Kinda, but not really.
- Most of the media has been in the Doom & Gloom business constantly, and the usual Orange Man bad type of questions and articles.
- I wouldn't say the administration has been as much mixed messages, as evolving messages. As usual with large entities, the government has been slower to change than a smaller entity.
If you look, we're seeing another evolution right now. Safety is being balanced against economic collapse. I think we'll be seeing policy changes by the end of April.
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@mark said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
yeah, because politics is so much more important than providing accurate information.
GMAFB.
Your ignorance is either feigned or you are extremely naive. I don't think you are either.
Any thinking person knows that to effectively govern in times like these, you cannot have hugely mixed messages to the public. These things are hammered out behind closed doors.
wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 15:24 last edited by@Jolly said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
@mark said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
yeah, because politics is so much more important than providing accurate information.
GMAFB.
Your ignorance is either feigned or you are extremely naive. I don't think you are either.
Any thinking person knows that to effectively govern in times like these, you cannot have hugely mixed messages to the public. These things are hammered out behind closed doors.
Especially not with the bloodthirsty press we have today.
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@Mik said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Still, Jolly - it would be a really, really bad move to fire him. It would give more ammunition to those who say he doesn't listen to the scientists and would shake up an already scared population. This is a situation where a steady hand is needed, not management by chaos.
He's not going to fire him, but I think you'll see Fauci backtrack at today's briefing.
wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 12:32 last edited by@Jolly said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
@Mik said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Still, Jolly - it would be a really, really bad move to fire him. It would give more ammunition to those who say he doesn't listen to the scientists and would shake up an already scared population. This is a situation where a steady hand is needed, not management by chaos.
He's not going to fire him, but I think you'll see Fauci backtrack at today's briefing.
Correctamundo, brother.
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wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 14:22 last edited by
This sums it up:
Paula Reid, CBS. (To Fauci). Are you doing this voluntarily or did the President.—
F.auci: no, I am doing it—everything I do is voluntarily. Please don’t even imply that.
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wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 14:24 last edited by Mik
What a stupid question to ask. Just trying to get him to say something clickbait..
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 14:49 last edited by Aqua Letifer
@Mik said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
What a stupid question to ask. Just trying to get him to say something clickbait..
That's been the game for the past month.
It's like there are two tiers of journalism, otften within the same publication: the job of the political reporters is to gin up clickbait to rake in ridiculously diminishing ad returns (although with everyone being home, ad reach has been artificially inflated, no doubt giving the ad sales guys a false sense of security and justification), and then the content reporters investigate every potentially plausible theory they come across.
Neither are really all that great, but long story short, political coverage is clickbait and outrage pr0n masquerading as public interest.
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wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 20:08 last edited by
@Mik said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Just trying to get him to say something clickbait..
He loves clickbait, he loves the attention and the TV ratings, and he seems naturally prolific at generating material for click bait.
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wrote on 1 May 2020, 18:16 last edited by
Active cases in the US did not peak in April.
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wrote on 1 May 2020, 18:18 last edited by
Here’s an interesting way of looking at the data. Proportion of cases that have resolved.
Seems to me we’re on track to exceed 100k deaths by summer.
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wrote on 1 May 2020, 18:20 last edited by
What are the sources for those data, Jon?
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wrote on 1 May 2020, 19:53 last edited by jon-nyc 5 Jan 2020, 19:54
The top one I cut from worldometers directly. The bottom one is from Branco Milanovic citing worldometers data.
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wrote on 2 May 2020, 11:49 last edited by Loki 5 Feb 2020, 11:50
@jon-nyc said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Active cases in the US did not peak in April.
What is an active case? Someone who tested positive? More tests= more cases? What am I missing?
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wrote on 2 May 2020, 15:30 last edited by jon-nyc 5 Feb 2020, 15:30
Total cases - (deaths + recoveries), IOW a case that’s still unresolved.
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wrote on 2 May 2020, 15:57 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in In which jon-nyc stakes out an unconventional opinion on the Covid-19 outbreak:
Total cases - (deaths + recoveries), IOW a case that’s still unresolved.
But with so many asymptomatic people once you identify them by testing at scale you really aren’t for sure accurately measuring growth right? It seems so obvious to me so I feel like I must be still missing something.
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wrote on 2 May 2020, 16:41 last edited by
Our case count is affected by testing capacity, yes. That’s always been the case.
