HB 291

[taiwan_girl]

Not sure why that is needed.

[Jolly]

This bill is pretty interesting. It says that a designated caregiver shall not be denied visitation at the hospital or nursing home, provided the caregiver follows designated infection control protocol, regardless of the caregiver's vaccination status.

[taiwan_girl]

But what if part of the designated infection control protocol is a vaccination?

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in HB 291:

But what if part of the designated infection control protocol is a vaccination?

It overrides that.

[Mik]

As far as I know there is no particular evidence that vaccination prevents you from being able to spread the virus. The folks I caught it from were all vaccinated. Everyone who caught it at my MIL's funeral was vaccinated.

Vaccination protects you. Not anyone else.

[Jolly]

One of the drivers of this bill had a relative die by themselves in the nursing home, never allowed to have contact with her family. Any of her family.

The bill may be amended, but it's going to pass.

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik said in HB 291:

As far as I know there is no particular evidence that vaccination prevents you from being able to spread the virus. The folks I caught it from were all vaccinated. Everyone who caught it at my MIL's funeral was vaccinated.

Vaccination protects you. Not anyone else.

I understand that this is directed at COVID, but is it true in all vaccines that having a vaccine (for example for typhoid, etc) does not prevent transmission?

[jon-nyc]

Hard to believe it’s necessary.

The only place I’ve seen vaccines enforced in the last year is inbound US flights and that’s only for noncitizens.

[Jolly]

The bill's author feels it is necessary for the future.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in HB 291:

One of the drivers of this bill had a relative die by themselves in the nursing home, never allowed to have contact with her family. Any of her family.

I've been in that place. We need to move on at this point.

I'm a big supporter of vaccines, but it's obvious they have limited effectiveness. Forcing people to go through hell doesn't seem smart. However, as Jon said, it probably isn't necessary.

In the event of a different outbreak where isolation is required, then we should revisit how to deal with the specific situation. I don't think working with hypotheticals is smart - if it was something more akin to Ebola, would you want unrestricted access?

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in HB 291:

Hard to believe it’s necessary.

The only place I’ve seen vaccines enforced in the last year is inbound US flights and that’s only for noncitizens.

It was 18 months ago.