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HB 291

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    Jolly
    wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 23:45 last edited by
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    Louisiana bill...

    https://legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1306919

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 22 Apr 2023, 06:35 last edited by
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      Not sure why that is needed.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 22 Apr 2023, 11:12 last edited by
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        This bill is pretty interesting. It says that a designated caregiver shall not be denied visitation at the hospital or nursing home, provided the caregiver follows designated infection control protocol, regardless of the caregiver's vaccination status.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 23 Apr 2023, 03:14 last edited by
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          But what if part of the designated infection control protocol is a vaccination?

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            23 Apr 2023, 03:14

            But what if part of the designated infection control protocol is a vaccination?

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            Jolly
            wrote on 23 Apr 2023, 12:01 last edited by
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            @taiwan_girl said in HB 291:

            But what if part of the designated infection control protocol is a vaccination?

            It overrides that.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Mik
              wrote on 23 Apr 2023, 14:04 last edited by Mik
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              As far as I know there is no particular evidence that vaccination prevents you from being able to spread the virus. The folks I caught it from were all vaccinated. Everyone who caught it at my MIL's funeral was vaccinated.

              Vaccination protects you. Not anyone else.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Jolly
                wrote on 23 Apr 2023, 14:21 last edited by
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                One of the drivers of this bill had a relative die by themselves in the nursing home, never allowed to have contact with her family. Any of her family.

                The bill may be amended, but it's going to pass.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • M Mik
                  23 Apr 2023, 14:04

                  As far as I know there is no particular evidence that vaccination prevents you from being able to spread the virus. The folks I caught it from were all vaccinated. Everyone who caught it at my MIL's funeral was vaccinated.

                  Vaccination protects you. Not anyone else.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 24 Apr 2023, 02:51 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in HB 291:

                  As far as I know there is no particular evidence that vaccination prevents you from being able to spread the virus. The folks I caught it from were all vaccinated. Everyone who caught it at my MIL's funeral was vaccinated.

                  Vaccination protects you. Not anyone else.

                  I understand that this is directed at COVID, but is it true in all vaccines that having a vaccine (for example for typhoid, etc) does not prevent transmission?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 24 Apr 2023, 13:07 last edited by
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                    Hard to believe it’s necessary.

                    The only place I’ve seen vaccines enforced in the last year is inbound US flights and that’s only for noncitizens.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 24 Apr 2023, 13:39 last edited by
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                      The bill's author feels it is necessary for the future.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        23 Apr 2023, 14:21

                        One of the drivers of this bill had a relative die by themselves in the nursing home, never allowed to have contact with her family. Any of her family.

                        The bill may be amended, but it's going to pass.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 25 Apr 2023, 01:37 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                        @Jolly said in HB 291:

                        One of the drivers of this bill had a relative die by themselves in the nursing home, never allowed to have contact with her family. Any of her family.

                        I've been in that place. We need to move on at this point.

                        I'm a big supporter of vaccines, but it's obvious they have limited effectiveness. Forcing people to go through hell doesn't seem smart. However, as Jon said, it probably isn't necessary.

                        In the event of a different outbreak where isolation is required, then we should revisit how to deal with the specific situation. I don't think working with hypotheticals is smart - if it was something more akin to Ebola, would you want unrestricted access?

                        I was only joking

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          24 Apr 2023, 13:07

                          Hard to believe it’s necessary.

                          The only place I’ve seen vaccines enforced in the last year is inbound US flights and that’s only for noncitizens.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 25 Apr 2023, 01:39 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in HB 291:

                          Hard to believe it’s necessary.

                          The only place I’ve seen vaccines enforced in the last year is inbound US flights and that’s only for noncitizens.

                          It was 18 months ago.

                          The Brad

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