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  • D Doctor Phibes
    20 Apr 2023, 23:59

    @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

    Googling a bit it does seem women are much more likely to get injured than men conditional on being in an accident. It’s worth learning why that is (it may be known too I just haven’t googled that much) and if there’s a way to make it better (as opposed to more equitable) then yeah go

    I would have thought it was bloody obvious that they should model different body types with crash test dummies. They have kids modeled, why not women?

    It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to model obese people, really tall people, etc. too.

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    George K
    wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 21:38 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

    I would have thought it was bloody obvious that they should model different body types with crash test dummies. They have kids modeled, why not women?

    Nice to see that the Biden administration's secretary of transportation acknowledges that there are actually biologic differences between men and women, even if others in the administration can't define it.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      21 Apr 2023, 21:38

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

      I would have thought it was bloody obvious that they should model different body types with crash test dummies. They have kids modeled, why not women?

      Nice to see that the Biden administration's secretary of transportation acknowledges that there are actually biologic differences between men and women, even if others in the administration can't define it.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 21:39 last edited by
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      @George-K said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

      I would have thought it was bloody obvious that they should model different body types with crash test dummies. They have kids modeled, why not women?

      Nice to see that the Biden administration's secretary of transportation acknowledges that there are actually biologic differences between men and women, even if others in the administration can't define it.

      Zing!

      The Brad

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        21 Apr 2023, 15:01

        Sure.

        You keep taking the de-wormer. Maybe swallow a UV light while you're at it.

        If you think Fauci and Birx were the idiots in the room while Trump was speaking, I honestly don't know what to say.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:27 last edited by
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

        Sure.

        You keep taking the de-wormer. Maybe swallow a UV light while you're at it.

        If you think Fauci and Birx were the idiots in the room while Trump was speaking, I honestly don't know what to say.

        I think Fauci knew the Wuhan Virus was a lab leak and lied like a dog about it.

        If you want a tower of Truth and Virtue, it ain't that lying SOB...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          21 Apr 2023, 12:57

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

          @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

          Right that’s how things always used to work. It also used to be that public health officials didn’t recommend courses of action that killed more rather than fewer people as long as the phenotypic mix was was more to their liking. But here we are.

          I feel we've also crossed a line when the President of the United States called his own senior health advisors 'idiots' as part of a losing re-election campaign, right in the middle of a pandemic that is killing millions, and which he had repeatedly tried to play down the seriousness of.

          Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, Trump wasn't too far off.

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          Mik
          wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:37 last edited by
          #29

          @Jolly said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

          @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

          Right that’s how things always used to work. It also used to be that public health officials didn’t recommend courses of action that killed more rather than fewer people as long as the phenotypic mix was was more to their liking. But here we are.

          I feel we've also crossed a line when the President of the United States called his own senior health advisors 'idiots' as part of a losing re-election campaign, right in the middle of a pandemic that is killing millions, and which he had repeatedly tried to play down the seriousness of.

          Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, Trump wasn't too far off.

          I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • M Mik
            21 Apr 2023, 22:37

            @Jolly said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

            @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

            Right that’s how things always used to work. It also used to be that public health officials didn’t recommend courses of action that killed more rather than fewer people as long as the phenotypic mix was was more to their liking. But here we are.

            I feel we've also crossed a line when the President of the United States called his own senior health advisors 'idiots' as part of a losing re-election campaign, right in the middle of a pandemic that is killing millions, and which he had repeatedly tried to play down the seriousness of.

            Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, Trump wasn't too far off.

            I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:39 last edited by
            #30

            @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

            I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

            Everybody's a stable genius in hindsight.

            Well, almost everybody.

            I was only joking

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            • M Mik
              21 Apr 2023, 22:37

              @Jolly said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

              @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

              Right that’s how things always used to work. It also used to be that public health officials didn’t recommend courses of action that killed more rather than fewer people as long as the phenotypic mix was was more to their liking. But here we are.

              I feel we've also crossed a line when the President of the United States called his own senior health advisors 'idiots' as part of a losing re-election campaign, right in the middle of a pandemic that is killing millions, and which he had repeatedly tried to play down the seriousness of.

              Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, Trump wasn't too far off.

              I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:41 last edited by
              #31

              @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

              @Jolly said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

              @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

              Right that’s how things always used to work. It also used to be that public health officials didn’t recommend courses of action that killed more rather than fewer people as long as the phenotypic mix was was more to their liking. But here we are.

              I feel we've also crossed a line when the President of the United States called his own senior health advisors 'idiots' as part of a losing re-election campaign, right in the middle of a pandemic that is killing millions, and which he had repeatedly tried to play down the seriousness of.

              Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, Trump wasn't too far off.

              I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

              I think we need to do a thorough post-mortem on our response, taking a look at what worked and what didn't, relegating our conclusions to only those that are supported by medical science, data and typical human behavior.

              We have not done so.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                21 Apr 2023, 22:39

                @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                Everybody's a stable genius in hindsight.

                Well, almost everybody.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:42 last edited by
                #32

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                Everybody's a stable genius in hindsight.

                Well, almost everybody.

                Yeah, well your buddy was lying at the time and he knew it. I have nothing for the man. he doesn't deserve the title of doctor.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • M Mik
                  21 Apr 2023, 22:37

                  @Jolly said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                  @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                  Right that’s how things always used to work. It also used to be that public health officials didn’t recommend courses of action that killed more rather than fewer people as long as the phenotypic mix was was more to their liking. But here we are.

                  I feel we've also crossed a line when the President of the United States called his own senior health advisors 'idiots' as part of a losing re-election campaign, right in the middle of a pandemic that is killing millions, and which he had repeatedly tried to play down the seriousness of.

                  Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, Trump wasn't too far off.

                  I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:47 last edited by
                  #33

                  @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                  I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                  I don't know that we did, to be honest. If you remember the horror that unfolded in Italy and New York it's easy to see why we did what we did.

                  I was only joking

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                  • J Jolly
                    21 Apr 2023, 22:41

                    @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    @Jolly said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    Right that’s how things always used to work. It also used to be that public health officials didn’t recommend courses of action that killed more rather than fewer people as long as the phenotypic mix was was more to their liking. But here we are.

                    I feel we've also crossed a line when the President of the United States called his own senior health advisors 'idiots' as part of a losing re-election campaign, right in the middle of a pandemic that is killing millions, and which he had repeatedly tried to play down the seriousness of.

                    Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, Trump wasn't too far off.

                    I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                    I think we need to do a thorough post-mortem on our response, taking a look at what worked and what didn't, relegating our conclusions to only those that are supported by medical science, data and typical human behavior.

                    We have not done so.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:52 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    @Jolly said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    @jon-nyc said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                    Right that’s how things always used to work. It also used to be that public health officials didn’t recommend courses of action that killed more rather than fewer people as long as the phenotypic mix was was more to their liking. But here we are.

                    I feel we've also crossed a line when the President of the United States called his own senior health advisors 'idiots' as part of a losing re-election campaign, right in the middle of a pandemic that is killing millions, and which he had repeatedly tried to play down the seriousness of.

                    Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, Trump wasn't too far off.

                    I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                    I think we need to do a thorough post-mortem on our response, taking a look at what worked and what didn't, relegating our conclusions to only those that are supported by medical science, data and typical human behavior.

                    We have not done so.

                    Which I find astounding. A better example to learn from will not come along anytime soon. I hope.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      21 Apr 2023, 22:47

                      @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                      I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                      I don't know that we did, to be honest. If you remember the horror that unfolded in Italy and New York it's easy to see why we did what we did.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:53 last edited by Mik
                      #35

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                      @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                      I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                      I don't know that we did, to be honest. If you remember the horror that unfolded in Italy and New York it's easy to see why we did what we did.

                      I think that's what I said for the initial actions taken, but not for the length of time we did, and not with the outlandish outlay of funding.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        21 Apr 2023, 22:53

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                        @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                        I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                        I don't know that we did, to be honest. If you remember the horror that unfolded in Italy and New York it's easy to see why we did what we did.

                        I think that's what I said for the initial actions taken, but not for the length of time we did, and not with the outlandish outlay of funding.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 23:26 last edited by
                        #36

                        @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                        I think that's what I said for the initial actions taken, but not for the length of time we did, and not with the outlandish outlay of funding.

                        The blanket payouts by both administrations were incredibly wasteful.

                        I was only joking

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          21 Apr 2023, 22:47

                          @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                          I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                          I don't know that we did, to be honest. If you remember the horror that unfolded in Italy and New York it's easy to see why we did what we did.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 22 Apr 2023, 01:00 last edited by
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                          @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                          I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                          I don't know that we did, to be honest. If you remember the horror that unfolded in Italy and New York it's easy to see why we did what we did.

                          Okay, that could excuse 15 days and the 6 ft social distancingm.… What about from May 1st, 2020 onward?

                          The Brad

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 22 Apr 2023, 01:20 last edited by
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                            May 1, 2020

                            Was that "15 days to stop the spread"?

                            mission accomplished

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                            • L LuFins Dad
                              22 Apr 2023, 01:00

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                              @Mik said in Crash Test Dummies Deserve Gender Equity:

                              I don't think anyone can honestly say in hindsight that we did not overreact. Perhaps not in the initial steps, but in how long they continued.

                              I don't know that we did, to be honest. If you remember the horror that unfolded in Italy and New York it's easy to see why we did what we did.

                              Okay, that could excuse 15 days and the 6 ft social distancingm.… What about from May 1st, 2020 onward?

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 22 Apr 2023, 03:07 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #39

                              Edit - never mind, all a bit too personal

                              I was only joking

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