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  • Doctor PhibesD Online
    Doctor PhibesD Online
    Doctor Phibes
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    #20

    NPR's bias has probably got nothing to do with where they get their money. It's just who they are. Even as a namby-pamby liberal, I find I can't listen to them any more because the bias is so deeply ingrained in their discussions.

    I was only joking

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @jon-nyc said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

      @Jolly

      Did it seem state affiliated in 2017?

      Do you count the bureaucrats that are at the heart and soul of each of the branches of government a part of the state?

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      jon-nyc
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      #21

      @LuFins-Dad said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

      @jon-nyc said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

      @Jolly

      Did it seem state affiliated in 2017?

      Do you count the bureaucrats that are at the heart and soul of each of the branches of government a part of the state?

      Seems to me there's a lot of daylight between an outlet whose reporting is appreciated by many individuals within the state and, say, the CCP's Global Times.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • George KG George K

        NPR gets some money from the government, though it's murky how much from the federal government, and how much from local governments. I have little doubt that its reporting is at least colored by that fact After all, would you want to say something bad if it risked losing as little as 5% of your revenue stream?

        Of course not.

        That said, to hold themselves out to be "objective" is silly.

        Go to NPR's search page and search "Far Right."

        You'll find 17 stories with that phrase from this year.

        Now search "Far Left."

        You'll find 6 stories in the last 3 ½ years (and nothing from 2023). And the only story about the Floyd protests (which no one will say are NOT far left), says that "Trump blames far-left extremists."

        So, yeah, give up the mantle of objectivity, and join MSNBC in the way you cover news. At least you'll be honest.

        AxtremusA Away
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        Axtremus
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        #22

        @George-K said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

        That said, to hold themselves out to be "objective" is silly.

        Go to NPR's search page and search "Far Right."

        You'll find 17 stories with that phrase from this year.

        Now search "Far Left."

        You'll find 6 stories in the last 3 ½ years (and nothing from 2023). And the only story about the Floyd protests (which no one will say are NOT far left), says that "Trump blames far-left extremists."

        Is the number of articles the right measure for objectivity? It could be that the "far right" has done more newsworthy things many more frequently than the "far left." Take, for example, reporting on Hitler: just because a news outfit has printed something bad about Hitler 99.9% of the time they reported on Hitler does not mean it is "not objective," but rather than Hitler was bad.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @George-K said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

          That said, to hold themselves out to be "objective" is silly.

          Go to NPR's search page and search "Far Right."

          You'll find 17 stories with that phrase from this year.

          Now search "Far Left."

          You'll find 6 stories in the last 3 ½ years (and nothing from 2023). And the only story about the Floyd protests (which no one will say are NOT far left), says that "Trump blames far-left extremists."

          Is the number of articles the right measure for objectivity? It could be that the "far right" has done more newsworthy things many more frequently than the "far left." Take, for example, reporting on Hitler: just because a news outfit has printed something bad about Hitler 99.9% of the time they reported on Hitler does not mean it is "not objective," but rather than Hitler was bad.

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          #23

          @Axtremus said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

          @George-K said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

          That said, to hold themselves out to be "objective" is silly.

          Go to NPR's search page and search "Far Right."

          You'll find 17 stories with that phrase from this year.

          Now search "Far Left."

          You'll find 6 stories in the last 3 ½ years (and nothing from 2023). And the only story about the Floyd protests (which no one will say are NOT far left), says that "Trump blames far-left extremists."

          Is the number of articles the right measure for objectivity? It could be that the "far right" has done more newsworthy things many more frequently than the "far left." Take, for example, reporting on Hitler: just because a news outfit has printed something bad about Hitler 99.9% of the time they reported on Hitler does not mean it is "not objective," but rather than Hitler was bad.

          Some reflection about whether the Floyd riots could have been framed as "far left", but were not, might be illuminating.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Jolly
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            #24

            "Presently, NPR receives funding for less than 1 percent of its budget directly from the federal government, but receives almost 10% of its budget from federal, state, and local governments indirectly,” according to influencewatch.org, which rates NPR as a left-of-center outlet.

            According to Pew Research, the audiences of NPR and PBS are among the most liberal in America. Seventy-two percent of NPR’s audience describe themselves as “consistently liberal,” while 71 percent of PBS’s audience describe themselves that way. PBS also receives federal funding.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              "Presently, NPR receives funding for less than 1 percent of its budget directly from the federal government, but receives almost 10% of its budget from federal, state, and local governments indirectly,” according to influencewatch.org, which rates NPR as a left-of-center outlet.

              According to Pew Research, the audiences of NPR and PBS are among the most liberal in America. Seventy-two percent of NPR’s audience describe themselves as “consistently liberal,” while 71 percent of PBS’s audience describe themselves that way. PBS also receives federal funding.

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              @Jolly said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

              Presently, NPR receives funding for less than 1 percent of its budget directly from the federal government, but receives almost 10% of its budget from federal, state, and local governments indirectly,” according to influencewatch.org, which rates NPR as a left-of-center outlet.

              Although NPR receives only 1% of its direct funding from the federal government,[5] member stations (which pay dues amounting to approximately one third of NPR's revenue), tend to receive far larger portions of their budgets from the federal (through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting) and state governments. NPR states it is not state-run media, and further states it operates independently of the U.S. government;nonetheless, NPR indicates that federal funding is essential to NPR and that the loss of federal funding would weaken the network.

              CPB:

              The CPB's annual budget is composed almost entirely of an annual appropriation from Congress plus interest on those funds. CPB has claimed that 95% of its appropriation goes directly to content development, community services, and other local station and system needs.[4]

              For fiscal year 2014, its appropriation was US$445.5 million, including $500,000 in interest earned. The distribution of these funds was as follows:[8]

              $222.78M for direct grants to local public television stations;
              $74.63M for television programming grants;
              $69.31M for direct grants to local public radio stations;
              $26.67M for PBS support;
              $22.84M for grants for radio programming and national program production and acquisition;
              $22.25M for CPB administrative costs;
              $7.00M for the Radio Program Fund.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Jolly
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                #26

                I was quoting from an article in The Hill.

                I bow to your superior Googlefu.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Copper
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                  An experiment might be to cancel NPR.

                  I bet zero republicans complain.

                  And every democrat complains.

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    I used to listen to NPR when I had to drive to work. Honestly, I enjoyed it overall. It was a refreshing way to learn about news and some deep-dives into topics. It wasn't overwhelmingly liberal and in general they'd give the "5 Ws" of a story (who, what, where, when, why) with maybe a bit more on the WHY end, which was good. Anyway, doesn't matter now... I work at home and look at snow melting all day (and birds, too). It helps to be unplugged a bit from news, in general, I have found. Humans were not meant to consume world-wide news non-stop, IMO. I've gone so far as to say I don't really have a need to know about 99% of the news. School shooting? Molestation scandal? Chicago crime? None of it affects me. Ok, weird rant over.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #29

                      I listened to NPR back in the 80's and early 90's. All Things Considered, etc.

                      It became more and more one-sided, until it became useless.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        I used to listen to NPR when I had to drive to work. Honestly, I enjoyed it overall. It was a refreshing way to learn about news and some deep-dives into topics. It wasn't overwhelmingly liberal and in general they'd give the "5 Ws" of a story (who, what, where, when, why) with maybe a bit more on the WHY end, which was good. Anyway, doesn't matter now... I work at home and look at snow melting all day (and birds, too). It helps to be unplugged a bit from news, in general, I have found. Humans were not meant to consume world-wide news non-stop, IMO. I've gone so far as to say I don't really have a need to know about 99% of the news. School shooting? Molestation scandal? Chicago crime? None of it affects me. Ok, weird rant over.

                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #30

                        @89th said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

                        I used to listen to NPR when I had to drive to work. Honestly, I enjoyed it overall. It was a refreshing way to learn about news and some deep-dives into topics. It wasn't overwhelmingly liberal and in general they'd give the "5 Ws" of a story (who, what, where, when, why) with maybe a bit more on the WHY end, which was good. Anyway, doesn't matter now... I work at home and look at snow melting all day (and birds, too). It helps to be unplugged a bit from news, in general, I have found. Humans were not meant to consume world-wide news non-stop, IMO. I've gone so far as to say I don't really have a need to know about 99% of the news. School shooting? Molestation scandal? Chicago crime? None of it affects me. Ok, weird rant over.

                        It seems like it's got considerably more one-sided over the last 10-15 years. I used to listen to it on the drive to work, but I gave up a few years back. The fact that I can now get BBC radio comedy might also have had something to do with it.

                        Or maybe I'm just getting old.

                        I was only joking

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                          Jolly
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                          Tucker weighs in...

                          https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/04/07/tucker_carlson_npr_is_state_media_elon_musk_has_used_english_as_it_was_intended_in_order_to_tell_the_truth.html

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Tucker weighs in...

                            https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/04/07/tucker_carlson_npr_is_state_media_elon_musk_has_used_english_as_it_was_intended_in_order_to_tell_the_truth.html

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                            @Jolly said in Twitter pisses off NPR:

                            https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/04/07/tucker_carlson_npr_is_state_media_elon_musk_has_used_english_as_it_was_intended_in_order_to_tell_the_truth.html

                            A nice litany of all the things wrong with NPR. Doesn't really address Musk's tweet other than to (correctly) identify NPR as a far-left leftist outfit.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              I guess now the label has been changed to "government funded media".

                              Meanwhile, Tesla has received USD$2.5 billion in government subsidies. Should they should be labeled "government funded auto company"? LOL

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                                Jolly
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                                #34

                                I'm sorry, but the difference is obvious.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  George K
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    find other ways to find our work

                                    Fucking really?

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      The BBC has also complained about the state funded description, however Musk complimented them on the quality of their reporting, which might soften the pill a little.

                                      https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-65226481

                                      Calling the BBC state-funded isn't really accurate, as the article explains, however they're not primarily a commercial organisation.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        George K
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                                        Seen on the RWEC:

                                        "The platform isn’t undermining NPR’s credibility. They do a fine job of that themselves. If they wanted to demonstrate independence, they could simply refuse to take federal subsidies, especially since NPR keeps insisting that it’s only “less than 1%” of their operating budget. And maybe they could start building credibility by reporting on stories rather than burying them."

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
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                                          image.jpeg

                                          Justin Castreaux opines.

                                          Stating facts is an "attack?"

                                          image.jpeg

                                          Glenn Greenwald: "It's just a simple fact that the CBC gets Canadian government funding. If they're embarrassed by it, they should reject it."

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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