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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #38

    Read this today about the shooting:

    The price we pay for admitting the mentally ill into mainstream society.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      #39

      Keep guns out of schools!

      https://nypost.com/2023/03/27/mother-of-nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale-shared-several-gun-control-posts-on-social-media/

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG George K

        MAGA cap-wearing gunman commits mass murder at gay nightclub.

        Don't you think that would be the headline if...?

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        #40

        @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

        MAGA cap-wearing gunman commits mass murder at gay nightclub.

        Don't you think that would be the headline if...?

        That’s a highly inaccurate point, George. The shooter at the gay nightclub was non-binary and the one at the drag show identifies as trans.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #41

          Surprise! Girl was autistic…

          https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/audrey-hales-mom-i-think-i-lost-my-daughter-today/

          I am more and more thinking the Gender Dysphoria is a symptom, not the underlying problem. Placating the symptom does not solve the issue.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Surprise! Girl was autistic…

            https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/audrey-hales-mom-i-think-i-lost-my-daughter-today/

            I am more and more thinking the Gender Dysphoria is a symptom, not the underlying problem. Placating the symptom does not solve the issue.

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            Horace
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            #42

            @LuFins-Dad said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

            Surprise! Girl was autistic…

            https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/audrey-hales-mom-i-think-i-lost-my-daughter-today/

            I am more and more thinking the Gender Dysphoria is a symptom, not the underlying problem. Placating the symptom does not solve the issue.

            Seems reasonable to consider it a form of self-hatred, and a desire to start anew.

            These people expect others to accept them as some grotesque caricature of whatever gender, but they couldn't even accept themselves when their feels were at odds with their relatively normal appearance.

            Education is extremely important.

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              #43

              What's the first word that comes to your mind, other than "Heroes?"

              For me - Uvalde.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Horace
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                #44

                No doubt those officers had that example in mind. Literally better to die than to live with that sort of shame.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #45

                  Some people will charge excessive force, since the officer shot her while she was down. Those people don't know how the real world works... Officers will keep shooting a perp as long as a firearm is within reach and the perp is moving.

                  I saw that for a fact one day at work.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #46

                    So, was this a case of domestic terrorism or a hate crime?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      So, was this a case of domestic terrorism or a hate crime?

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                      @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                      So, was this a case of domestic terrorism or a hate crime?

                      Yes.

                      The Brad

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                      • George KG George K

                        So, was this a case of domestic terrorism or a hate crime?

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #48

                        @George-K It could be both. But who knows if we'll ever get motive.

                        Jordan Peterson says of school shootings, "this is revenge against God, or the conditions of being, whichever you prefer."

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @George-K It could be both. But who knows if we'll ever get motive.

                          Jordan Peterson says of school shootings, "this is revenge against God, or the conditions of being, whichever you prefer."

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @jon-nyc said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                          @George-K It could be both. But who knows if we'll ever get motive.

                          I think we will. I think the manifesto will get released quickly. The Nashville Police Chief hasn’t seemed too interested in protecting sensibilities… I mean, he never even hesitated in calling her “her”. And I am sure he is getting all kinds of hell from trolls today for calling her “her”. I think he won’t be interested in placating anyone…

                          Beyond that, are there any statutes that can limit charges to strictly being hate crimes or domestic terror charges? Not that it matters in her case, but if we find out that she had an associate aware of her plans or if it’s found that there were online groups that assisted her, that could be extremely significant. But the domestic terror charges fall into Federal purview, and I don’t see them pushing it very far.

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @jon-nyc said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                            @George-K It could be both. But who knows if we'll ever get motive.

                            I think we will. I think the manifesto will get released quickly. The Nashville Police Chief hasn’t seemed too interested in protecting sensibilities… I mean, he never even hesitated in calling her “her”. And I am sure he is getting all kinds of hell from trolls today for calling her “her”. I think he won’t be interested in placating anyone…

                            Beyond that, are there any statutes that can limit charges to strictly being hate crimes or domestic terror charges? Not that it matters in her case, but if we find out that she had an associate aware of her plans or if it’s found that there were online groups that assisted her, that could be extremely significant. But the domestic terror charges fall into Federal purview, and I don’t see them pushing it very far.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                            if we find out that she had an associate aware of her plans

                            Apparently she texted (messaged?) a friend saying "I'm going to die today."

                            https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/nashville-school-shooters-chilling-final-messages-to-pal-revealed/

                            Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale sent a friend a chilling “suicide note” minutes before slaughtering three children and three adults — writing her: “I’m planning to die today.”

                            Hale, 28, messaged Averianna Patton, her former middle school basketball teammate, on Instagram at 9:57 a.m. Monday, NewsChannel 5 reported.

                            “So basically that post I made on here about you, that was basically a suicide note. I’m planning to die today,” Hale wrote, using the name Aiden, according to messages Patton gave the outlet.

                            “THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!!” wrote Hale, who identified as transgender. “You’ll probably hear about me on the news after I die.”

                            Hale added: “This is my last goodbye. I love you … See you again in another life.” She signed the missive “Audrey (Aiden).”

                            Patton replied: “Audrey! You have so much more life to live. I pray God keeps and covers you.”

                            In response, Hale wrote: “I know but I don’t want to live. I’m so sorry. I’m not trying to upset you or get attention. I just need to die. I wanted to tell you first because you are the most beautiful person I’ve ever seen and known all my life.”

                            She added: “My family doesn’t know what I’m about to do. One day this will make more sense. I’ve left more than enough evidence behind. But something bad is about to happen.”

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              #51

                              @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:
                              "One day this will make more sense. I’ve left more than enough evidence behind. But something bad is about to happen.”

                              Won't ever make sense to kill innocents.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                if we find out that she had an associate aware of her plans

                                Apparently she texted (messaged?) a friend saying "I'm going to die today."

                                https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/nashville-school-shooters-chilling-final-messages-to-pal-revealed/

                                Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale sent a friend a chilling “suicide note” minutes before slaughtering three children and three adults — writing her: “I’m planning to die today.”

                                Hale, 28, messaged Averianna Patton, her former middle school basketball teammate, on Instagram at 9:57 a.m. Monday, NewsChannel 5 reported.

                                “So basically that post I made on here about you, that was basically a suicide note. I’m planning to die today,” Hale wrote, using the name Aiden, according to messages Patton gave the outlet.

                                “THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!!” wrote Hale, who identified as transgender. “You’ll probably hear about me on the news after I die.”

                                Hale added: “This is my last goodbye. I love you … See you again in another life.” She signed the missive “Audrey (Aiden).”

                                Patton replied: “Audrey! You have so much more life to live. I pray God keeps and covers you.”

                                In response, Hale wrote: “I know but I don’t want to live. I’m so sorry. I’m not trying to upset you or get attention. I just need to die. I wanted to tell you first because you are the most beautiful person I’ve ever seen and known all my life.”

                                She added: “My family doesn’t know what I’m about to do. One day this will make more sense. I’ve left more than enough evidence behind. But something bad is about to happen.”

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                                Jolly
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                                #52

                                @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                if we find out that she had an associate aware of her plans

                                Apparently she texted (messaged?) a friend saying "I'm going to die today."

                                https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/nashville-school-shooters-chilling-final-messages-to-pal-revealed/

                                Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale sent a friend a chilling “suicide note” minutes before slaughtering three children and three adults — writing her: “I’m planning to die today.”

                                Hale, 28, messaged Averianna Patton, her former middle school basketball teammate, on Instagram at 9:57 a.m. Monday, NewsChannel 5 reported.

                                “So basically that post I made on here about you, that was basically a suicide note. I’m planning to die today,” Hale wrote, using the name Aiden, according to messages Patton gave the outlet.

                                “THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!!” wrote Hale, who identified as transgender. “You’ll probably hear about me on the news after I die.”

                                Hale added: “This is my last goodbye. I love you … See you again in another life.” She signed the missive “Audrey (Aiden).”

                                Patton replied: “Audrey! You have so much more life to live. I pray God keeps and covers you.”

                                In response, Hale wrote: “I know but I don’t want to live. I’m so sorry. I’m not trying to upset you or get attention. I just need to die. I wanted to tell you first because you are the most beautiful person I’ve ever seen and known all my life.”

                                She added: “My family doesn’t know what I’m about to do. One day this will make more sense. I’ve left more than enough evidence behind. But something bad is about to happen.”

                                Then kill yourself, darling. Why kill innocent children?

                                I'm telling y'all, the devil strides across this earth in cloven hooves...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #53

                                  I don't think they will publish her whole manifesto, but they let it out she had considered another target.

                                  That target had armed people on the premises, so she decided not to attack that location.

                                  https://www.newsweek.com/covenant-school-shooter-audrey-hale-eyed-second-target-police-say-1790702

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    You cannot possibly criticize the response.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                      if we find out that she had an associate aware of her plans

                                      Apparently she texted (messaged?) a friend saying "I'm going to die today."

                                      https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/nashville-school-shooters-chilling-final-messages-to-pal-revealed/

                                      Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale sent a friend a chilling “suicide note” minutes before slaughtering three children and three adults — writing her: “I’m planning to die today.”

                                      Hale, 28, messaged Averianna Patton, her former middle school basketball teammate, on Instagram at 9:57 a.m. Monday, NewsChannel 5 reported.

                                      “So basically that post I made on here about you, that was basically a suicide note. I’m planning to die today,” Hale wrote, using the name Aiden, according to messages Patton gave the outlet.

                                      “THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!!” wrote Hale, who identified as transgender. “You’ll probably hear about me on the news after I die.”

                                      Hale added: “This is my last goodbye. I love you … See you again in another life.” She signed the missive “Audrey (Aiden).”

                                      Patton replied: “Audrey! You have so much more life to live. I pray God keeps and covers you.”

                                      In response, Hale wrote: “I know but I don’t want to live. I’m so sorry. I’m not trying to upset you or get attention. I just need to die. I wanted to tell you first because you are the most beautiful person I’ve ever seen and known all my life.”

                                      She added: “My family doesn’t know what I’m about to do. One day this will make more sense. I’ve left more than enough evidence behind. But something bad is about to happen.”

                                      Then kill yourself, darling. Why kill innocent children?

                                      I'm telling y'all, the devil strides across this earth in cloven hooves...

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                                      @Jolly said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                      Then kill yourself, darling. Why kill innocent children?

                                      +infinty

                                      I think about all the crap that pisses me off in this life and it all pales in comparison to this.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        Your worst headline of the day

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          Your worst headline of the day

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                                          @LuFins-Dad Jesus.

                                          Wait...

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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