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Journey to Justice - San Francisco

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    It is my understanding that cities cannot print money like the federal government can, so it will be interesting how this plays out. I mean it would be a dream come true for those who just want to watch the world burn, for this to become law, and for San Francisco to do whatever it had to, to extract the money from the residents.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      I spent about 4 days in San Francisco in 2014. I am the son of immigrants who were fleeing oppression and possible slavery.

      WHERE'S MAH MONEEE????

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        So a city that never allowed slavery in a state that never allowed slavery is now considering giving $5,000,000 per African American in reparations. The board of supervisors voiced unanimous support, though some expressed shock that some of their liberal constituents are opposed. The vote isn’t until June, but I don’t see how they can walk this back.

        Order some popcorn…

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        @LuFins-Dad said in Journey to Justice - San Francisco:

        So a city that never allowed slavery in a state that never allowed slavery is now considering giving $5,000,000 per African American in reparations. The board of supervisors voiced unanimous support, though some expressed shock that some of their liberal constituents are opposed. The vote isn’t until June, but I don’t see how they can walk this back.

        Order some popcorn…

        So a state that never had slaves is telling people who never owned slaves that they should give money to people who never were slaves.

        Did I get that right?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #7

          They paid a group of people to develop these recommendations, by the way. Any guesses as to the academic credentials of those people? I mean, I don't know, but maybe this is how -studies degrees manifest in the real world.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            Imagine how many black residents they’d have the day after the vote.

            By the way, quick math is this would cost 200B, which is almost 300k per resident.

            The total SF budget is 8.8B

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              One good thing about this case is it would allow a test case that could get to scotus to rule out the idea of race-based government payments for all time. Or at least for many decades.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                One good thing about this case is it would allow a test case that could get to scotus to rule out the idea of race-based government payments for all time. Or at least for many decades.

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                @jon-nyc said in Journey to Justice - San Francisco:

                One good thing about this case is it would allow a test case that could get to scotus to rule out the idea of race-based government payments for all time. Or at least for many decades.

                The AIs will force lots of redistribution laws. So much money, we'll ultimately be looking for excuses to dole it out to the masses who will be literally incapable of contributing meaningfully to the free market.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @jon-nyc said in Journey to Justice - San Francisco:

                  One good thing about this case is it would allow a test case that could get to scotus to rule out the idea of race-based government payments for all time. Or at least for many decades.

                  The AIs will force lots of redistribution laws. So much money, we'll ultimately be looking for excuses to dole it out to the masses who will be literally incapable of contributing meaningfully to the free market.

                  CopperC Online
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                  Copper
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                  Define race

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    They've already done this for one family who owned quite a bit of what I think is now Huntington Beach. They were screwed out of land they legitimately owned. The city gave them the park back, which they then sold back to the city for $20M. I find this somewhat different than mass reparations just because your ancestors were slaves.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • George KG George K

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Journey to Justice - San Francisco:

                      So a city that never allowed slavery in a state that never allowed slavery is now considering giving $5,000,000 per African American in reparations. The board of supervisors voiced unanimous support, though some expressed shock that some of their liberal constituents are opposed. The vote isn’t until June, but I don’t see how they can walk this back.

                      Order some popcorn…

                      So a state that never had slaves is telling people who never owned slaves that they should give money to people who never were slaves.

                      Did I get that right?

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      @George-K said in Journey to Justice - San Francisco:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Journey to Justice - San Francisco:

                      So a city that never allowed slavery in a state that never allowed slavery is now considering giving $5,000,000 per African American in reparations. The board of supervisors voiced unanimous support, though some expressed shock that some of their liberal constituents are opposed. The vote isn’t until June, but I don’t see how they can walk this back.

                      Order some popcorn…

                      So a state that never had slaves is telling people who never owned slaves that they should give money to people who never were slaves.

                      Did I get that right?

                      Oh, and most of the cost will be born by Asians… https://sfstandard.com/research-data/san-francisco-tops-us-income-chinese-older-adults-census/

                      The Brad

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                        But if anyone really deserves reparations in San Francisco, it’s the Chinese…https://www.sfexaminer.com/our_sections/forum/are-chinese-american-reparations-in-san-francisco-next/article_9b316c82-a8de-11ed-82de-7fd770bf880b.html

                        The Brad

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