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Jan 6? Pence's fault

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    George K
    wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 13:00 last edited by
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/13/trump-pence-iowa/

    JFC...

    Donald Trump on Monday sharply rebuked Mike Pence’s assertion that history would hold him accountable for the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, telling reporters that his former vice president should shoulder the blame for the violent riot that day by Trump’s supporters.
    “Had he sent the votes back to the legislatures, they wouldn’t have had a problem with Jan. 6, so in many ways you can blame him for Jan. 6,” the former president said, referring to Pence’s refusal to reject the electoral college votes in Congress as Trump wanted him to do that day. “Had he sent them back to Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, the states, I believe, number one, you would have had a different outcome. But I also believe you wouldn’t have had ‘Jan. 6’ as we call it.”
    A pro-Trump mob attacked the Capitol on that day following months of false claims by Trump that the election was stolen from him. He also used incendiary and false rhetoric about the election at a rally at the Ellipse near the White House shortly before the rioters stormed the Capitol.
    Trump was responding to Pence’s remarks on Saturday, where he said unequivocally that Trump had been “wrong” to demand he overturn the election, something Pence maintained he had no power to do. “His reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day,” Pence said during a speech at the white-tie Gridiron dinner in Washington. “And I know that history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”
    The former president made his comments to reporters aboard his plane as he made his way to Iowa for his first visit since announcing his presidential bid last year. The trip came as Trump was also under intense legal scrutiny, facing several investigations.
    Trump suggested that Pence’s condemnation was driven by his single-digit showings in recent surveys of potential 2024 Republican presidential contenders. (Pence has not officially announced his candidacy, even as he has made moves toward entering the race.)

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 13:04 last edited by
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      He's lost all touch with reality.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        14 Mar 2023, 13:04

        He's lost all touch with reality.

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        George K
        wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 13:06 last edited by
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        @Mik said in Jan 6? Pence's fault:

        He's lost all touch with reality.

        Put this in the context of the "Pathetic" article I posted earlier, and, yeah, you're right.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 13:10 last edited by
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          He's his own worst enemy.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 13:11 last edited by
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            Someone needs to ask Trump if it shall be in VP Harris’s power to reject state results she doesn’t like in January of 25

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              14 Mar 2023, 13:10

              He's his own worst enemy.

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              George K
              wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 13:12 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in Jan 6? Pence's fault:

              He's his own worst enemy.

              Yup. As as in the "Shrinking Trump" article, he can't STAND losing. And even if he accepts the loss, it'll be someone else's fault.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 13:50 last edited by Mik
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                I doubt he really wants or has any real platform for another term. he just wants to win, where he can't lose again and leaves office the victor.

                Who in hell would want to be his VP?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  89th
                  wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 13:55 last edited by
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                  What are the odds Trump will eventually step aside and "crown" DeSantis, and therefore claim credit for being the king maker?

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                    14 Mar 2023, 13:55

                    What are the odds Trump will eventually step aside and "crown" DeSantis, and therefore claim credit for being the king maker?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 14:23 last edited by
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                    @89th said in Jan 6? Pence's fault:

                    What are the odds Trump will eventually step aside and "crown" DeSantis, and therefore claim credit for being the king maker?

                    Identically zero.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 14:38 last edited by
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                      Yeah, I have to agree with Jon. Unless something cataclysmic comes along he will never do such a thing.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 14:48 last edited by
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                        If Ms. Clinton gets in the race I wouldn't rule out a Trump suicide.

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 01:05 last edited by
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                          As happened in the 2020 election, the best campaigner the Democrats have is President Trump.

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