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  • 8 89th
    13 Mar 2023, 02:09

    I love movies. Love. Haven’t had much time recently to watch but did see Top Gun. Very fun, worthy if there was an Oscar for “reminding folks why going to the movies is worth it” but otherwise not really an award worthy movie.

    Used to watch the Oscar’s religiously. Last few years I’ve stopped (didn’t even know it was on today) because of the politicization and holier than thou statements.

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    George K
    wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 02:17 last edited by
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    @89th said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

    Last few years I’ve stopped (didn’t even know it was on today) because of the politicization and holier than thou statements.

    So far, not too much of that (though I didn't hear Kimmel's monologue).

    The most popular "in word" seems to be "diverse," FWIW.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 11:35 last edited by
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      All Quiet on the Western Front is fantastic. I also saw Top Gun.

      First I ever heard of the winning movie was this morning

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        George K
        wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 11:49 last edited by
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        I never saw the 1st "Avatar" movie. Is it any good?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 11:53 last edited by
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          Damn. John Williams received his 53rd Oscar nomination this year.

          53!

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 11:54 last edited by
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            Yep. But best seen in the theater and it's one of the few 3D movies I ever saw, that kinda worked.

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              George K
              wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 12:08 last edited by
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              "Who identifies...."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • J jon-nyc
                13 Mar 2023, 11:53

                Damn. John Williams received his 53rd Oscar nomination this year.

                53!

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                Horace
                wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 12:44 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc

                @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                "Who identifies...."

                That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • H Horace
                  13 Mar 2023, 12:44

                  @jon-nyc

                  @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                  "Who identifies...."

                  That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 12:46 last edited by
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                  @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                  identifying as different skin colors is wrong,

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • H Horace
                    13 Mar 2023, 12:44

                    @jon-nyc

                    @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                    "Who identifies...."

                    That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 12:51 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                    @jon-nyc

                    @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                    "Who identifies...."

                    That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

                    I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                    The Brad

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 12:53 last edited by
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                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh

                      Yeoh was born on 6 August 1962 in Ipoh, Perak,[13] to a Malaysian Chinese family of Hokkien and Cantonese ancestry.[14][15] Her parents are Janet Yeoh and Yeoh Kian-teik (died on 5 November 2014), a lawyer and Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) politician.[16][17] She grew up speaking Malay and English, and could not read or write Chinese.[18] She expressed that lack as her "greatest regret" in 2022.[19] Despite that, she learned to speak Cantonese fluently in the 1980s and some Mandarin in the 2000s.

                      Her ancestry and upbringing are Asian. Despite not speaking Chinese in her youth, Malay is also an Asian language, so she also speaks Asian in her youth as well.

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                      • G George K
                        13 Mar 2023, 11:49

                        I never saw the 1st "Avatar" movie. Is it any good?

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 12:55 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                        I never saw the 1st "Avatar" movie. Is it any good?

                        Only in 3D. Then it’s gorgeous and immersing. I assume 2 is the same way. The story was tired.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          13 Mar 2023, 12:53

                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh

                          Yeoh was born on 6 August 1962 in Ipoh, Perak,[13] to a Malaysian Chinese family of Hokkien and Cantonese ancestry.[14][15] Her parents are Janet Yeoh and Yeoh Kian-teik (died on 5 November 2014), a lawyer and Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) politician.[16][17] She grew up speaking Malay and English, and could not read or write Chinese.[18] She expressed that lack as her "greatest regret" in 2022.[19] Despite that, she learned to speak Cantonese fluently in the 1980s and some Mandarin in the 2000s.

                          Her ancestry and upbringing are Asian. Despite not speaking Chinese in her youth, Malay is also an Asian language, so she also speaks Asian in her youth as well.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 13:41 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh

                          Yeoh was born on 6 August 1962 in Ipoh, Perak,[13] to a Malaysian Chinese family of Hokkien and Cantonese ancestry.[14][15] Her parents are Janet Yeoh and Yeoh Kian-teik (died on 5 November 2014), a lawyer and Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) politician.[16][17] She grew up speaking Malay and English, and could not read or write Chinese.[18] She expressed that lack as her "greatest regret" in 2022.[19] Despite that, she learned to speak Cantonese fluently in the 1980s and some Mandarin in the 2000s.

                          Her ancestry and upbringing are Asian. Despite not speaking Chinese in her youth, Malay is also an Asian language, so she also speaks Asian in her youth as well.

                          Nobody denies that she has justification for calling herself Asian. But the concept of “identifying as” implies a simple personal choice, regardless of justification. Which brings up the question of whether we all have that choice for any other choice of race. Where the rubber meets the road for such choices is of course identifying as black. The only reason we haven’t had the social discussion yet is because people are terrified of trying, as everybody knows doing so is punishable by the social death penalty.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 13:44 last edited by
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                            Horace is correct, of course, but I think we are talking about simple poor journalism here. I suspect she'd laugh if she read it.

                            To paraphrase Popeye, you yam what you yam.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:01 last edited by
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                              Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.

                              But it's not the racism you think.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/jamie-lee-curtis-s-oscar-win-has-sparked-backlash-and-people-are-not-holding-back/ar-AA18xU1M?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3b8f83c859014a30e46b30f35312725a&ei=11

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • M Mik
                                13 Mar 2023, 14:01

                                Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.

                                But it's not the racism you think.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/jamie-lee-curtis-s-oscar-win-has-sparked-backlash-and-people-are-not-holding-back/ar-AA18xU1M?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3b8f83c859014a30e46b30f35312725a&ei=11

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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:08 last edited by Catseye3
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                                @Mik said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
                                But it's not the racism you think.

                                Did you see this in the Comments? "Everyone who voted for Jamie Lee Curtis over Angela Bassett and Stephanie Hsu needs to sleep with one eye open."

                                MSN/Buzzfeed. Rabble Rousers. Really irresponsible.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  13 Mar 2023, 14:08

                                  @Mik said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                  Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
                                  But it's not the racism you think.

                                  Did you see this in the Comments? "Everyone who voted for Jamie Lee Curtis over Angela Bassett and Stephanie Hsu needs to sleep with one eye open."

                                  MSN/Buzzfeed. Rabble Rousers. Really irresponsible.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:44 last edited by
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                                  @Catseye3 yeah, I did. It sickened me. As did many of the comments.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    13 Mar 2023, 12:51

                                    @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                    "Who identifies...."

                                    That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

                                    I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:20 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                    I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                                    Aren't blacks about 12% of the population?

                                    So the quota is 12%.

                                    Now if you want to throw merit into the mix that number could change.

                                    But merit really isn't welcome lately.

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                                    • C Copper
                                      13 Mar 2023, 15:20

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                      I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                                      Aren't blacks about 12% of the population?

                                      So the quota is 12%.

                                      Now if you want to throw merit into the mix that number could change.

                                      But merit really isn't welcome lately.

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:23 last edited by
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                                      @Copper

                                      None of that means anything to people who can conceive of this kind of comment.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:27 last edited by Horace
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                                        Programmed primates, expressing the culture they were indoctrinated into. The only thing it says about them is that they enjoy their socially encouraged hatreds. The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on, and the personality types that fiercely embrace those hatreds will be the same.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          13 Mar 2023, 15:27

                                          Programmed primates, expressing the culture they were indoctrinated into. The only thing it says about them is that they enjoy their socially encouraged hatreds. The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on, and the personality types that fiercely embrace those hatreds will be the same.

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:30 last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                          The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on . . .

                                          And they are so infernally successful.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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