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The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #1

    Jefferson wrote this but was forced to remove it under pressure from other delegates.

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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
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      Wow.... that I was unaware of.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jefferson was scribbling changes to the document until literally the last second, in an anteroom.

        I think it was probably a good idea that the above was deleted.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          Does this mean his statue can go back up?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Does this mean his statue can go back up?

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            @George-K said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

            Does this mean his statue can go back up?

            Nah, he was still bopping his female slave....

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              Let he who has never bopped a female slave cast the first stone.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Let he who has never bopped a female slave cast the first stone.

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                Jolly
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                #7

                @jon-nyc said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                Let he who has never bopped a female slave cast the first stone.

                Paid or non-paid?

                Just asking for a friend...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • L Offline
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                  Loki
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                  #8

                  Very interesting.

                  OTOH, how many clauses didn’t make it and was this also inspired to stop King George’s continued meddling?

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                    Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold - or maybe it was from Googling stuff while watching Hamilton last night - but was reading about British efforts to offer freedom to slaves if they would fight for the British cause.

                    So, this doesn't surprise me.

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                    • KincaidK Kincaid

                      Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold - or maybe it was from Googling stuff while watching Hamilton last night - but was reading about British efforts to offer freedom to slaves if they would fight for the British cause.

                      So, this doesn't surprise me.

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                      Loki
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                      @Kincaid said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                      Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold - or maybe it was from Googling stuff while watching Hamilton last night - but was reading about British efforts to offer freedom to slaves if they would fight for the British cause.

                      So, this doesn't surprise me.

                      Yeah it’s part of the Hamilton narrative.

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                        @Kincaid said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                        Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold - or maybe it was from Googling stuff while watching Hamilton last night - but was reading about British efforts to offer freedom to slaves if they would fight for the British cause.

                        So, this doesn't surprise me.

                        Yeah it’s part of the Hamilton narrative.

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                        @Loki said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                        @Kincaid said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                        Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold

                        It is on Netflix

                        https://www.amc.com/shows/turn-2/cast-crew/benedict-arnold

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