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The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 16:57 last edited by
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    Jefferson wrote this but was forced to remove it under pressure from other delegates.

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    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Mik
      wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:02 last edited by
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      Wow.... that I was unaware of.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:08 last edited by
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        Jefferson was scribbling changes to the document until literally the last second, in an anteroom.

        I think it was probably a good idea that the above was deleted.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          George K
          wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:11 last edited by
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          Does this mean his statue can go back up?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            4 Jul 2020, 17:11

            Does this mean his statue can go back up?

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            Jolly
            wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:13 last edited by
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            @George-K said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

            Does this mean his statue can go back up?

            Nah, he was still bopping his female slave....

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:15 last edited by
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              Let he who has never bopped a female slave cast the first stone.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • J jon-nyc
                4 Jul 2020, 17:15

                Let he who has never bopped a female slave cast the first stone.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 20:58 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                Let he who has never bopped a female slave cast the first stone.

                Paid or non-paid?

                Just asking for a friend...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 21:10 last edited by
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                  Very interesting.

                  OTOH, how many clauses didn’t make it and was this also inspired to stop King George’s continued meddling?

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                    Kincaid
                    wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 21:56 last edited by
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                    Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold - or maybe it was from Googling stuff while watching Hamilton last night - but was reading about British efforts to offer freedom to slaves if they would fight for the British cause.

                    So, this doesn't surprise me.

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                    • K Kincaid
                      4 Jul 2020, 21:56

                      Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold - or maybe it was from Googling stuff while watching Hamilton last night - but was reading about British efforts to offer freedom to slaves if they would fight for the British cause.

                      So, this doesn't surprise me.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 21:58 last edited by
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                      @Kincaid said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                      Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold - or maybe it was from Googling stuff while watching Hamilton last night - but was reading about British efforts to offer freedom to slaves if they would fight for the British cause.

                      So, this doesn't surprise me.

                      Yeah it’s part of the Hamilton narrative.

                      CopperC 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jul 2020, 23:54
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                        4 Jul 2020, 21:58

                        @Kincaid said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                        Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold - or maybe it was from Googling stuff while watching Hamilton last night - but was reading about British efforts to offer freedom to slaves if they would fight for the British cause.

                        So, this doesn't surprise me.

                        Yeah it’s part of the Hamilton narrative.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 23:54 last edited by
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                        @Loki said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                        @Kincaid said in The deleted clause of the Declaration of Independence:

                        Reading a book about the relationship between Geo. Washington and Benedict Arnold

                        It is on Netflix

                        https://www.amc.com/shows/turn-2/cast-crew/benedict-arnold

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