Will TuCa change the narrative?
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Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
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Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
I was only joking
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Sure.
Riot? Yep.
Insurrection? No.
BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.
I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.
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Sure.
Riot? Yep.
Insurrection? No.
BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.
I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.
@Jolly said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Sure.
Riot? Yep.
Insurrection? No.
BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.
I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.
I don't actually think it was an attempted insurrection on behalf of the violent idiots carrying it out. It was a group tantrum, and one that could have led to a lot more death and unpleasantness than actually occurred.
What Trump actually had in mind with his shit-stirring and childish behaviour is anybody's guess. Maybe he didn't even know himself. Clearly he doesn't accept failure in a very mature or even particularly rational manner.
For anybody to imply that he bears no responsibility for what happened, and his inability to accept defeat was primarily due to failings in the US electoral system would be unrealistic.
As far as watching Tucker Carlson's show goes - no, thanks. Apart from anything else, I find him extremely annoying. I wouldn't sit through a Michael Moore movie either, so it's not just his politics.
I was only joking
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I think it is good for Americans to see this footage, to see the whole day was not violent clashes with Capitol police. There was an ebb and flow for that.
But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.
But the main takeaway is not threat to representative democracy but that Trump should never again hold the levers of power.
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I think it is good for Americans to see this footage, to see the whole day was not violent clashes with Capitol police. There was an ebb and flow for that.
But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.
But the main takeaway is not threat to representative democracy but that Trump should never again hold the levers of power.
@Mik said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.
Exactly. The outrage of government officials saying that viewing this is a "threat to democracy" is ridiculous. (Am I the only one tired of this phrase?). The editing that was done to show Hawley running out of the Capitol was done for exactly one reason - to humiliate him. Talk about "selective editing," ffs. Everyone's trying to tell a story here, and the fact that, for more than two year, only the government was allowed to is disgraceful.
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@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.
Education is extremely important.
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@Jolly said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Sure.
Riot? Yep.
Insurrection? No.
BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.
I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.
I don't actually think it was an attempted insurrection on behalf of the violent idiots carrying it out. It was a group tantrum, and one that could have led to a lot more death and unpleasantness than actually occurred.
What Trump actually had in mind with his shit-stirring and childish behaviour is anybody's guess. Maybe he didn't even know himself. Clearly he doesn't accept failure in a very mature or even particularly rational manner.
For anybody to imply that he bears no responsibility for what happened, and his inability to accept defeat was primarily due to failings in the US electoral system would be unrealistic.
As far as watching Tucker Carlson's show goes - no, thanks. Apart from anything else, I find him extremely annoying. I wouldn't sit through a Michael Moore movie either, so it's not just his politics.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
Education is extremely important.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.
@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.
Yes, and fair play to them - it's refreshing to see their honesty. Their reaction seems to be rather at odds with some of the folks here.
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So… Anybody changed their minds yet? Or do you pretty much think the same thing you did on January 13th, 2021?
The Brad
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
Well, the main reason frequently touted for Trump not accepting his defeat was the huge number of problems and inconsistencies with the US election process. The real reason he couldn't accept defeat, of course, is because he's Donald Trump.
I was only joking
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So… Anybody changed their minds yet? Or do you pretty much think the same thing you did on January 13th, 2021?
@LuFins-Dad said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
So… Anybody changed their minds yet? Or do you pretty much think the same thing you did on January 13th, 2021?
I used to think Donald Trump was a twat. Now I think he's an utter twat.
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@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
Well, the main reason frequently touted for Trump not accepting his defeat was the huge number of problems and inconsistencies with the US election process. The real reason he couldn't accept defeat, of course, is because he's Donald Trump.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
Well, the main reason frequently touted for Trump not accepting his defeat was the huge number of problems and inconsistencies with the US election process. The real reason he couldn't accept defeat, of course, is because he's Donald Trump.
Some people are psychologically incapable of taking an L.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
Well, the main reason frequently touted for Trump not accepting his defeat was the huge number of problems and inconsistencies with the US election process. The real reason he couldn't accept defeat, of course, is because he's Donald Trump.
Some people are psychologically incapable of taking an L.
@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Some people are psychologically incapable of taking an L.
Sure, and that should be obvious just from watching him on TV. What I find a bit depressing is how many of his supporters go along with his bullshit.
I know, I know, the Democrats are the same, I'm sure we can find lots of examples.
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@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
Well, the main reason frequently touted for Trump not accepting his defeat was the huge number of problems and inconsistencies with the US election process. The real reason he couldn't accept defeat, of course, is because he's Donald Trump.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
Well, the main reason frequently touted for Trump not accepting his defeat was the huge number of problems and inconsistencies with the US election process. The real reason he couldn't accept defeat, of course, is because he's Donald Trump.
And...You're missing the point.
There are huge problems with elections within some states in America. Anybody with eyes and one-half of a brain knows this.
The way to not have a candidate question the outcome of an election (at least where people wouldn't believe him) is to have elections that are honest beyond reproach.
