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Will TuCa change the narrative?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #12

    There's a word out there that describes this:

    Funny?

    Fanciful?

    Escapes me, some other word that starts with "F"...

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #13

      Schumer today called for FOX to take Tucker off of the air.

      He was one of several, all saying the same thing. Typical talking points.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Schumer today called for FOX to take Tucker off of the air.

        He was one of several, all saying the same thing. Typical talking points.

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        #14

        @Jolly said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

        Schumer today called for FOX to take Tucker off of the air.

        But the Florida bill...LOL.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #15

          Tucker is currently doing an interview with a Capitol Police officer, the one wearing the MAGA hat on Jan 6.

          Interesting story...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            #16

            Mr. Schumer must be condemned

            By everyone

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #17

              Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation

              “I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.

              "I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."

              "I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.

              "To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.

              "It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”

              "I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.

              "The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa

              "Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said

              https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/

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              • CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                #18

                Watching this video is no better than insurrection

                This video must never be watched again

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation

                  “I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.

                  "I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."

                  "I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.

                  "To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.

                  "It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”

                  "I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.

                  "The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa

                  "Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said

                  https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #19

                  @taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                  Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation

                  “I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.

                  "I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."

                  "I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.

                  "To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.

                  "It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”

                  "I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.

                  "The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa

                  "Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said

                  https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/

                  Bueller?

                  Bueller?

                  Anyone?

                  Anyone?

                  I was only joking

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #20

                    Sure.

                    Riot? Yep.

                    Insurrection? No.

                    BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.

                    I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Sure.

                      Riot? Yep.

                      Insurrection? No.

                      BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.

                      I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #21

                      @Jolly said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                      Sure.

                      Riot? Yep.

                      Insurrection? No.

                      BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.

                      I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.

                      I don't actually think it was an attempted insurrection on behalf of the violent idiots carrying it out. It was a group tantrum, and one that could have led to a lot more death and unpleasantness than actually occurred.

                      What Trump actually had in mind with his shit-stirring and childish behaviour is anybody's guess. Maybe he didn't even know himself. Clearly he doesn't accept failure in a very mature or even particularly rational manner.

                      For anybody to imply that he bears no responsibility for what happened, and his inability to accept defeat was primarily due to failings in the US electoral system would be unrealistic.

                      As far as watching Tucker Carlson's show goes - no, thanks. Apart from anything else, I find him extremely annoying. I wouldn't sit through a Michael Moore movie either, so it's not just his politics.

                      I was only joking

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #22

                        I think it is good for Americans to see this footage, to see the whole day was not violent clashes with Capitol police. There was an ebb and flow for that.

                        But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.

                        But the main takeaway is not threat to representative democracy but that Trump should never again hold the levers of power.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          I think it is good for Americans to see this footage, to see the whole day was not violent clashes with Capitol police. There was an ebb and flow for that.

                          But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.

                          But the main takeaway is not threat to representative democracy but that Trump should never again hold the levers of power.

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                          George K
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                          #23

                          @Mik said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                          But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.

                          Exactly. The outrage of government officials saying that viewing this is a "threat to democracy" is ridiculous. (Am I the only one tired of this phrase?). The editing that was done to show Hawley running out of the Capitol was done for exactly one reason - to humiliate him. Talk about "selective editing," ffs. Everyone's trying to tell a story here, and the fact that, for more than two year, only the government was allowed to is disgraceful.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            #24

                            Not to mention the dishonest, weaponized way they did so.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Not to mention the dishonest, weaponized way they did so.

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                              George K
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                              #25

                              @Mik said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                              Not to mention the dishonest, weaponized way they did so.

                              You mean like adding a soundtrack to the video?

                              Oh, my giddy aunt, James O'Keefe would have been proud, I suppose.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation

                                “I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.

                                "I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."

                                "I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.

                                "To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.

                                "It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”

                                "I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.

                                "The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa

                                "Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said

                                https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/

                                Bueller?

                                Bueller?

                                Anyone?

                                Anyone?

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #26

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation

                                “I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.

                                "I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."

                                "I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.

                                "To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.

                                "It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”

                                "I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.

                                "The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa

                                "Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said

                                https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/

                                Bueller?

                                Bueller?

                                Anyone?

                                Anyone?

                                Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Jolly said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                  Sure.

                                  Riot? Yep.

                                  Insurrection? No.

                                  BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.

                                  I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.

                                  I don't actually think it was an attempted insurrection on behalf of the violent idiots carrying it out. It was a group tantrum, and one that could have led to a lot more death and unpleasantness than actually occurred.

                                  What Trump actually had in mind with his shit-stirring and childish behaviour is anybody's guess. Maybe he didn't even know himself. Clearly he doesn't accept failure in a very mature or even particularly rational manner.

                                  For anybody to imply that he bears no responsibility for what happened, and his inability to accept defeat was primarily due to failings in the US electoral system would be unrealistic.

                                  As far as watching Tucker Carlson's show goes - no, thanks. Apart from anything else, I find him extremely annoying. I wouldn't sit through a Michael Moore movie either, so it's not just his politics.

                                  HoraceH Offline
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                                  #27

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                  For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened

                                  I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                    Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation

                                    “I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.

                                    "I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."

                                    "I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.

                                    "To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.

                                    "It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”

                                    "I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.

                                    "The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa

                                    "Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said

                                    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/

                                    Bueller?

                                    Bueller?

                                    Anyone?

                                    Anyone?

                                    Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    #28

                                    @Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                    Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation

                                    “I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.

                                    "I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."

                                    "I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.

                                    "To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.

                                    "It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”

                                    "I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.

                                    "The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa

                                    "Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said

                                    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/

                                    Bueller?

                                    Bueller?

                                    Anyone?

                                    Anyone?

                                    Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.

                                    Yes, and fair play to them - it's refreshing to see their honesty. Their reaction seems to be rather at odds with some of the folks here.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      So… Anybody changed their minds yet? Or do you pretty much think the same thing you did on January 13th, 2021?

                                      The Brad

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                        For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened

                                        I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #30

                                        @Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                        For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened

                                        I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.

                                        Well, the main reason frequently touted for Trump not accepting his defeat was the huge number of problems and inconsistencies with the US election process. The real reason he couldn't accept defeat, of course, is because he's Donald Trump.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          So… Anybody changed their minds yet? Or do you pretty much think the same thing you did on January 13th, 2021?

                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                          So… Anybody changed their minds yet? Or do you pretty much think the same thing you did on January 13th, 2021?

                                          I used to think Donald Trump was a twat. Now I think he's an utter twat.

                                          I was only joking

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