Will TuCa change the narrative?
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Again, the January 6th committee was the biggest fraud perpetrated on the US public that I can remember. From the selection of the committee members, the hiring of an ABC producer to edit the video footage, to the refusal to allow cross examination or contrary witnesses tells the story.
But this is just as much theater as the committee was. And neither of them has shifted a single person’s view of that day.
Though it will help a few individual defendants. Shaman should certainly get an appeal for one. And it also raises a lot of questions about why this video was not made available to defendants that requested it.
@LuFins-Dad said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
And it also raises a lot of questions about why this video was not made available to defendants that requested it.
I've been beating the drum for a long time about the political enforcement of the law in this matter. Not to mention how some of the defendants have been treated in jail.
That doesn't matter to many, including some here, because these people are MAGAts, the untermenschen.
Without equality under the law, we're no better than a banana republic and the people who laugh at their fellow citizens for being prosecuted on primarily political grounds, should be ashamed of themselves.
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Again, the January 6th committee was the biggest fraud perpetrated on the US public that I can remember. From the selection of the committee members, the hiring of an ABC producer to edit the video footage, to the refusal to allow cross examination or contrary witnesses tells the story.
But this is just as much theater as the committee was. And neither of them has shifted a single person’s view of that day.
Though it will help a few individual defendants. Shaman should certainly get an appeal for one. And it also raises a lot of questions about why this video was not made available to defendants that requested it.
@LuFins-Dad said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
raises a lot of questions about why this video was not made available to defendants that requested it.
"National security," dont'cha know.
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Schumer today called for FOX to take Tucker off of the air.
He was one of several, all saying the same thing. Typical talking points.
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Schumer today called for FOX to take Tucker off of the air.
He was one of several, all saying the same thing. Typical talking points.
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Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
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Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
I was only joking
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Sure.
Riot? Yep.
Insurrection? No.
BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.
I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.
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Sure.
Riot? Yep.
Insurrection? No.
BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.
I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.
@Jolly said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Sure.
Riot? Yep.
Insurrection? No.
BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.
I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.
I don't actually think it was an attempted insurrection on behalf of the violent idiots carrying it out. It was a group tantrum, and one that could have led to a lot more death and unpleasantness than actually occurred.
What Trump actually had in mind with his shit-stirring and childish behaviour is anybody's guess. Maybe he didn't even know himself. Clearly he doesn't accept failure in a very mature or even particularly rational manner.
For anybody to imply that he bears no responsibility for what happened, and his inability to accept defeat was primarily due to failings in the US electoral system would be unrealistic.
As far as watching Tucker Carlson's show goes - no, thanks. Apart from anything else, I find him extremely annoying. I wouldn't sit through a Michael Moore movie either, so it's not just his politics.
I was only joking
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I think it is good for Americans to see this footage, to see the whole day was not violent clashes with Capitol police. There was an ebb and flow for that.
But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.
But the main takeaway is not threat to representative democracy but that Trump should never again hold the levers of power.
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I think it is good for Americans to see this footage, to see the whole day was not violent clashes with Capitol police. There was an ebb and flow for that.
But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.
But the main takeaway is not threat to representative democracy but that Trump should never again hold the levers of power.
@Mik said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
But both sides cherry picked what buttressed their story. Just put the whole damn thing out there and let those who want to watch do so.
Exactly. The outrage of government officials saying that viewing this is a "threat to democracy" is ridiculous. (Am I the only one tired of this phrase?). The editing that was done to show Hawley running out of the Capitol was done for exactly one reason - to humiliate him. Talk about "selective editing," ffs. Everyone's trying to tell a story here, and the fact that, for more than two year, only the government was allowed to is disgraceful.
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@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.
Education is extremely important.
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@Jolly said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Sure.
Riot? Yep.
Insurrection? No.
BTW, I haven't heard Tucker say it was right, haven't heard him say it wasn't violent, but I have heard him say we don't have the whole story.
I invite you to watch his show and judge for yourself.
I don't actually think it was an attempted insurrection on behalf of the violent idiots carrying it out. It was a group tantrum, and one that could have led to a lot more death and unpleasantness than actually occurred.
What Trump actually had in mind with his shit-stirring and childish behaviour is anybody's guess. Maybe he didn't even know himself. Clearly he doesn't accept failure in a very mature or even particularly rational manner.
For anybody to imply that he bears no responsibility for what happened, and his inability to accept defeat was primarily due to failings in the US electoral system would be unrealistic.
As far as watching Tucker Carlson's show goes - no, thanks. Apart from anything else, I find him extremely annoying. I wouldn't sit through a Michael Moore movie either, so it's not just his politics.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
For anybody to imply that [Trump] bears no responsibility for what happened
I doubt you'll find that viewpoint even on TuCa.
Education is extremely important.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.
@Horace said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
@taiwan_girl said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:
Seems like a lot of Republic Senators disagree regarding Tucker Carlsons interpretation
“I think it’s bull****,” Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters in the Capitol hallways on Tuesday.
"I was here. It was not peaceful. It was an abomination," Sen. John Kennedy," R-La."
"I thought it was an insurrection at that time. I still think it was an insurrection today," Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D.
"To somehow put that in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie," Sen. Kevin Cramer," R-N.D., said.
"It’s a very dangerous thing to do, to suggest that attacking the Capitol of the United States is in any way acceptable and it’s anything other than a serious crime, against democracy and against our country,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah said. “And people saw that it was violent and destructive and should never happen again. But trying to normalize that behavior is dangerous and disgusting.”
"I think it was an attack on the Capitol. … There were a lot of people in the Capitol at the time that were scared for their lives," Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., said.
"The point is, what happened that day shouldn’t have happened," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa
"Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on Jan. 6,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky said
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jan-6-video-tucker-carlson/2023/03/07/id/1111477/
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Republicans speaking honestly about what they think and what they saw.
Yes, and fair play to them - it's refreshing to see their honesty. Their reaction seems to be rather at odds with some of the folks here.
