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  • JollyJ Offline
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asia/hong-kongers-say-possible-china-repression-spurring-exodus-taiwan-n1232743

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      I wonder how long it'll be before China makes a move against Taiwan.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        I wonder how long it'll be before China makes a move against Taiwan.

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        @George-K said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

        I wonder how long it'll be before China makes a move against Taiwan.

        Hopefully never. I think everybody realizes that it would be a one way battle. While the words of the US have been very positive lately, I think the unspoken reality is that the US does not think that battle with mainland China would be worth Taiwan.

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          It's the domino effect that gets you

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @George-K said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

            I wonder how long it'll be before China makes a move against Taiwan.

            Hopefully never. I think everybody realizes that it would be a one way battle. While the words of the US have been very positive lately, I think the unspoken reality is that the US does not think that battle with mainland China would be worth Taiwan.

            RainmanR Offline
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            Rainman
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            #5

            @taiwan_girl said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

            @George-K said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

            I wonder how long it'll be before China makes a move against Taiwan.

            Hopefully never. I think everybody realizes that it would be a one way battle. While the words of the US have been very positive lately, I think the unspoken reality is that the US does not think that battle with mainland China would be worth Taiwan.

            And that is tragic.
            If the West was proud of itself, and collectively pushed back against the CCP, maybe it would be a better world, yes?

            But, no. Let's wait. Then, in time, something can happen and we can have a war.

            I have followed the protests in Hong Kong. Frankly, I'm embarrassed that the U.S. only tries to sabre rattle, knowing full well we will do nothing. Hong Kong protesters want what we have. In the meantime, our demonstrators want some form of Marxism, even if most have never heard of Marx.

            How many Hong Kong protesters, or any in Taiwan, will "disappear" in the near future. Rhetorical question, I guess.

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            • RainmanR Rainman

              @taiwan_girl said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

              @George-K said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

              I wonder how long it'll be before China makes a move against Taiwan.

              Hopefully never. I think everybody realizes that it would be a one way battle. While the words of the US have been very positive lately, I think the unspoken reality is that the US does not think that battle with mainland China would be worth Taiwan.

              And that is tragic.
              If the West was proud of itself, and collectively pushed back against the CCP, maybe it would be a better world, yes?

              But, no. Let's wait. Then, in time, something can happen and we can have a war.

              I have followed the protests in Hong Kong. Frankly, I'm embarrassed that the U.S. only tries to sabre rattle, knowing full well we will do nothing. Hong Kong protesters want what we have. In the meantime, our demonstrators want some form of Marxism, even if most have never heard of Marx.

              How many Hong Kong protesters, or any in Taiwan, will "disappear" in the near future. Rhetorical question, I guess.

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              @Rainman said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

              I have followed the protests in Hong Kong. Frankly, I'm embarrassed that the U.S. only tries to sabre rattle, knowing full well we will do nothing.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/us/politics/senate-china-hong-kong-sanctions.html

              The Senate on Thursday unanimously passed legislation [the House passed it a day earlier] to impose sanctions on Chinese officials trying to stamp out political dissent in Hong Kong, sending the measure to President Trump’s desk for his signature.

              ... The White House has not said whether it would support the measure ...

              Congress has provided the legislation, let’s see what Trump will do with it, if anything.

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                Lad, if Congress passed the legislation, Trump has little to do with it, does he not?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Lad, if Congress passed the legislation, Trump has little to do with it, does he not?

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                  @Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                  Lad, if Congress passed the legislation, Trump has little to do with it, does he not?

                  So the president doesn't really have any effect on anything???????

                  (Just teasing you Jolly!!! :couple_with_heart: )

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Lad, if Congress passed the legislation, Trump has little to do with it, does he not?

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                    @Jolly Well, except for the signature.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @Rainman said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                      I have followed the protests in Hong Kong. Frankly, I'm embarrassed that the U.S. only tries to sabre rattle, knowing full well we will do nothing.

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/us/politics/senate-china-hong-kong-sanctions.html

                      The Senate on Thursday unanimously passed legislation [the House passed it a day earlier] to impose sanctions on Chinese officials trying to stamp out political dissent in Hong Kong, sending the measure to President Trump’s desk for his signature.

                      ... The White House has not said whether it would support the measure ...

                      Congress has provided the legislation, let’s see what Trump will do with it, if anything.

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                      @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                      @Rainman said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                      I have followed the protests in Hong Kong. Frankly, I'm embarrassed that the U.S. only tries to sabre rattle, knowing full well we will do nothing.

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/us/politics/senate-china-hong-kong-sanctions.html

                      The Senate on Thursday unanimously passed legislation [the House passed it a day earlier] to impose sanctions on Chinese officials trying to stamp out political dissent in Hong Kong, sending the measure to President Trump’s desk for his signature.

                      ... The White House has not said whether it would support the measure ...

                      Congress has provided the legislation, let’s see what Trump will do with it, if anything.

                      Follow up ... Trump signed it: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/trump-signed-law-slapping-sanctions-on-china-for-interference-in-hong-kong.html

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                        I'm glad to see it, but would like specifics. Probably more sabre-rattling? Hope not, but this tit-for-tat is nonsense.

                        On a personal side, this may make my importing of stuff from China much more expensive. There are no manufacturers yet in the U.S. to build what I need. Think I'm going to get a major hit financially.
                        Thanks Trump! Thanks Xi!!

                        What has been barely reported upon are the floods taking place. From videos, it looks like Wuhan is completely flooded, and the stuff I order is made in Wuhan. I have not heard anything from our contacts in Wuhan for several weeks now.

                        I have said this before: if you need something that is manufactured in China, get it now. Supply chains are broken due to the pandemic, as well as flooding. When our stock of something runs out, it may be the Fall before we are able to restock. Maybe not even then, don't know.

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                        • RainmanR Rainman

                          I'm glad to see it, but would like specifics. Probably more sabre-rattling? Hope not, but this tit-for-tat is nonsense.

                          On a personal side, this may make my importing of stuff from China much more expensive. There are no manufacturers yet in the U.S. to build what I need. Think I'm going to get a major hit financially.
                          Thanks Trump! Thanks Xi!!

                          What has been barely reported upon are the floods taking place. From videos, it looks like Wuhan is completely flooded, and the stuff I order is made in Wuhan. I have not heard anything from our contacts in Wuhan for several weeks now.

                          I have said this before: if you need something that is manufactured in China, get it now. Supply chains are broken due to the pandemic, as well as flooding. When our stock of something runs out, it may be the Fall before we are able to restock. Maybe not even then, don't know.

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                          Axtremus
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                          @Rainman said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                          What has been barely reported upon are the floods taking place. From videos, it looks like Wuhan is completely flooded, and the stuff I order is made in Wuhan. I have not heard anything from our contacts in Wuhan for several weeks now.

                          Taiwanese news programs report the floods in China. I am not aware of American news outlets report the floods, haven't seen it on the BBC either.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @Rainman said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                            What has been barely reported upon are the floods taking place. From videos, it looks like Wuhan is completely flooded, and the stuff I order is made in Wuhan. I have not heard anything from our contacts in Wuhan for several weeks now.

                            Taiwanese news programs report the floods in China. I am not aware of American news outlets report the floods, haven't seen it on the BBC either.

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                            @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                            @Rainman said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                            What has been barely reported upon are the floods taking place. From videos, it looks like Wuhan is completely flooded, and the stuff I order is made in Wuhan. I have not heard anything from our contacts in Wuhan for several weeks now.

                            Taiwanese news programs report the floods in China. I am not aware of American news outlets report the floods, haven't seen it on the BBC either.

                            Why not?
                            It's not like there is some flooding here and there, the destruction is massive. Even the Three Gorges Dam is indicating some structural weakness. Hard to tell though, as the CCP controls everything, and spins everything to make things look under control.
                            It's a national disaster in mainland China, yet the news media ignores it. Go figure.

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                              If it's not related to Mr. Trump, why report it?

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                If it's not related to Mr. Trump, why report it?

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                                @Copper said in Meanwhile, in Taiwan:

                                If it's not NEGATIVELY related to Mr. Trump, why report it?

                                Kinda FIFY, if you don't mind.

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