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Serious retirement savings question…

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #13

    73 is around the point where you might expect your discretionary spending to slow a bit. But RMD messes with that and you need to have aa plan to reinvest some of that money.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @George-K said in Serious retirement savings question…:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Serious retirement savings question…:

      Wait, what? I have never heard about this….

      Surprise, surprise, surprise.

      https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-required-minimum-distributions-rmds

      Also that amount goes up every year.

      In my case it's the amount in my IRA divided by 25.5 - so a bit more than 4%.

      Here's a nice little calculator to see what you MUST take out. If you don't, penalties are YUGE - about 50%, iirc.

      https://www.aarp.org/work/retirement-planning/required-minimum-distribution-calculator.html

      You seriously have to be effin with me… Yhose amounts are entirely too much. If you live to be 95 you’ll basically be living off of SS…

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Serious retirement savings question…:

      If you live to be 95 you’ll basically be living off of SS…

      Just because you take it out of the IRA doesn't mean you can't still invest it.

      You just don't have as much to invest because the democrat IRS take it to pay for their office parties.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @George-K said in Serious retirement savings question…:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Serious retirement savings question…:

        Wait, what? I have never heard about this….

        Surprise, surprise, surprise.

        https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-required-minimum-distributions-rmds

        Also that amount goes up every year.

        In my case it's the amount in my IRA divided by 25.5 - so a bit more than 4%.

        Here's a nice little calculator to see what you MUST take out. If you don't, penalties are YUGE - about 50%, iirc.

        https://www.aarp.org/work/retirement-planning/required-minimum-distribution-calculator.html

        You seriously have to be effin with me… Yhose amounts are entirely too much. If you live to be 95 you’ll basically be living off of SS…

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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #15

        @LuFins-Dad said in Serious retirement savings question…:

        @George-K said in Serious retirement savings question…:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Serious retirement savings question…:

        Wait, what? I have never heard about this….

        Surprise, surprise, surprise.

        https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-required-minimum-distributions-rmds

        Also that amount goes up every year.

        In my case it's the amount in my IRA divided by 25.5 - so a bit more than 4%.

        Here's a nice little calculator to see what you MUST take out. If you don't, penalties are YUGE - about 50%, iirc.

        https://www.aarp.org/work/retirement-planning/required-minimum-distribution-calculator.html

        You seriously have to be effin with me… Yhose amounts are entirely too much. If you live to be 95 you’ll basically be living off of SS…

        Roth. Either front door or back door.

        You can also do a SPDA, although I don't think you can do that with a roll-over from a tex deferred fund such as a standard 401k.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #16

          Secondly, do you have LTC insurance? If not, and y'all are in fairly decent health, do consider it. At 65, your chances of needing long term care are about 3 in 4, or a bit less. The average expenditure a couple of years ago was somewhere around $170,000.

          If you don't have the money, the state will impoverish you, then put you on Medicaid. After your death, they will go after any other assets that don't count against Medicaid with a vengeance...This means your home and property, including your car.

          For asset protection, you may wish to consider a revocable or irrevocable trust for one or both of you. The current look-back period is 5 years. That's a decision to be made in a good lawyer's office. The advantage of a trust, besides asset protection, is avoiding probate.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            And...be careful where you retire. Some states have no state income tax. My state does, but none of my 401A is taxed by the state.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              And...be careful where you retire. Some states have no state income tax. My state does, but none of my 401A is taxed by the state.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @Jolly said in Serious retirement savings question…:

              And...be careful where you retire. Some states have no state income tax. My state does, but none of my 401A is taxed by the state.

              You'll most likely get taxed one way or another. No state income tax can often mean high property taxes or sales tax.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Jolly said in Serious retirement savings question…:

                And...be careful where you retire. Some states have no state income tax. My state does, but none of my 401A is taxed by the state.

                You'll most likely get taxed one way or another. No state income tax can often mean high property taxes or sales tax.

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                Jolly
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Serious retirement savings question…:

                @Jolly said in Serious retirement savings question…:

                And...be careful where you retire. Some states have no state income tax. My state does, but none of my 401A is taxed by the state.

                You'll most likely get taxed one way or another. No state income tax can often mean high property taxes or sales tax.

                Sales tax is a bitch, 10% or 10.5%. My property tax on my home = $0. My daughter's home (which I own) is a bit less than $700/year. My property tax on my timberland (23 acres) is $65.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #20

                  One of my favorite websites (thank you, Jon)...

                  https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/index.php

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #21

                    That’s weird… My 401K has an app that shows in a glance your balance, rate of return, recent transactions, and estimated retirement income including SS at retirement… I give it a quick check once a month or so… Last month I noticed that the balance went up, the rate of return went up, but the estimated annual income went down. I wasn’t sure, so I screenshot it… I just checked for this month. The balance is higher again, the rate of return is up .26%, and the estimated annual income is down $1100 per year.

                    Any thoughts, @jon-nyc ?

                    The Brad

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #22

                      Figured out the oddity... The app was set up to show the annualized return over a three year period. Three years ago the stock market was having it's COVID spasms and was all over the place...

                      The Brad

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