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“We encourage you to list your preferred pronoun”

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  • L LuFins Dad
    5 Mar 2023, 20:37

    Had a long and interesting conversation with Lu of the Lufin last night (he’s home on break).

    It helped clarify some of my own thoughts about this. Part of the problem is that this trans phenomenon is so wide in scope as well as definition. On one side you have these adult freaks that want to exhibit and shock to get some weird kick out of it. To the other extreme you have some kid that’s uncomfortable in their own skin (hardly unusual) and believe there is something wrong with themselves. Sometimes this manifests as girls with bulimia, guys that aren’t even athletes working out to excessive degrees that usually leads to steroids when they don’t achieve what they are searching for… Now, for a lot of these kids, a seeming explanation for their physical unease is simple… They are trans… It’s now a normal, easy, and even celebrated explanation. They are generally good kids. Just caught up in a hormonal overload mixed with a little depression, a little bit of autism, and a whole lot of low self esteem. These kids don’t deserve to be lumped into the same category as the freak fetishists.

    But how do you help these kids? Certainly not by encouraging them to take steps to chemically and physically alter their bodies that can not and should never be an acceptable answer.., That’s like telling a bulimic that she should get gastric bypass… But it’s also unhelpful to conflate them with the sick fetishist… It really needs to begin with better education, especially when kids are entering puberty and hormonal overload. And as we’ve discovered, this education sure as hell can’t be left up to the schools…

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    wrote on 6 Mar 2023, 12:41 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad said in “We encourage you to list your preferred pronoun”:

    To the other extreme you have some kid that’s uncomfortable in their own skin (hardly unusual) and believe there is something wrong with themselves. Sometimes this manifests as girls with bulimia, guys that aren’t even athletes working out to excessive degrees that usually leads to steroids when they don’t achieve what they are searching for… Now, for a lot of these kids, a seeming explanation for their physical unease is simple… They are trans… It’s now a normal, easy, and even celebrated explanation. They are generally good kids. Just caught up in a hormonal overload mixed with a little depression, a little bit of autism, and a whole lot of low self esteem. These kids don’t deserve to be lumped into the same category as the freak fetishists.

    This is a really good perspective, IMO. One of my primary/gut reactions to keeping the agenda of LGBT out of children's minds is exactly this... It's a trendy, easy, and instant-identity-value way of tackling what is otherwise normal growing pains, puberty, adolescence, and overall awkwardness of addressing sexuality as one enters puberty.

    I remember growing up there would be plenty of times kids in the neighborhood would be called names, or we would go behind someone's shed and play the "show me yours I'll show you mine" game. Or we'd play smear the queer (although now I understand why my parents told us not to yell the game name so loudly LOL). As we (as boys) began to hit puberty, I recall a few times we'd be at a friends house who was.... looking at a porn magazine, or in one case said he had to go in the bathroom for a bit. In another example, someone was bold enough to talk about how they had an erection in their pants. Hardy har har... all stupid stuff.

    These days when those types of things happen, I would imagine the immediate topic would be "oh, are you gay? or are you trans?".

    From a much larger perspective, what is trans anyway? If male vs female is based on sex, but man vs woman is based on gender.... isn't gender really more of a view of what is traditionally masculine vs feminine? For example, if a biological female thinks she's really a man, isn't it more that she feels more aligned with traditionally masculine cultural norms? Can't she just be a masculine female (or on the flip side, can't men just be feminine males?) without some mental disability or disorder where the person truly thinks they are the opposite of what their genetics say?

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      wrote on 6 Mar 2023, 16:02 last edited by
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      IOW, do tomboys still exist?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        wrote on 6 Mar 2023, 19:53 last edited by
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        Ouch.. Just picked up a cup of coffee.. Donald the Barista has a They/Them name tag. I get my coffee and without thinking say “Thank you, good sir!”

        Oh well…

        The Brad

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