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    George K
    wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 01:31 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 01:38 last edited by
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      I read about that but hadn’t seen the video. Damn.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        George K
        wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 01:41 last edited by
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        Yeah, I read about it as well with some top-down animations.

        I assume there's some perspective foreshortening by the camera, but, yeah...damn.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          mark
          wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 01:43 last edited by
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          Close call for sure. I would expect an investigation by the FAA.

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            Copper
            wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 02:47 last edited by Copper 2 Dec 2023, 02:50
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            That kind of situation was common at the airport where I worked.

            But that was private planes, not commercial jets.

            ATC messed up, he cleared them both when they were too close.

            Then ATC told Southwest to abort the takeoff. I assume Southwest was unable to abort, he was already committed to takeoff.

            Nice job by both pilots to fly the plane and save the discussion for later.

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              89th
              wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 13:43 last edited by
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              I believe that video is a flight simulator recreation? Could be wrong.

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                89th
                wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 13:45 last edited by
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                The ATC guy has to have been fired. I’ve known a few people who have gone for the ATC exam and certification and it’s incredible how many people fail out. No room for error or incorrect answers during the tests.

                Glad it was a clear day, if not the FedEx wouldn’t have seen Southwest.

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                  12 Feb 2023, 13:43

                  I believe that video is a flight simulator recreation? Could be wrong.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 14:10 last edited by
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                  @89th said in Close Call at Austin:

                  I believe that video is a flight simulator recreation?

                  Think you're right.

                  The event took place on Saturday, February 4, at approximately 6:40 a.m. in relative darkness, as sunrise was not until 7:20 a.m.

                  According to the FAA, FedEx Express Flight 1432, a Boeing 767, was cleared to land on Runway 18 Left at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport (KAUS). The clearance was received and acknowledged when the 767 was several miles away from the airport.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    12 Feb 2023, 13:45

                    The ATC guy has to have been fired. I’ve known a few people who have gone for the ATC exam and certification and it’s incredible how many people fail out. No room for error or incorrect answers during the tests.

                    Glad it was a clear day, if not the FedEx wouldn’t have seen Southwest.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 14:59 last edited by Copper 2 Dec 2023, 15:02
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                    @89th said in Close Call at Austin:

                    Glad it was a clear day, if not the FedEx wouldn’t have seen Southwest.

                    Visibility at the time was 1/8 of a mile, which might help explain how they got so close (within 75 feet).

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                    • G George K
                      12 Feb 2023, 01:41

                      Yeah, I read about it as well with some top-down animations.

                      I assume there's some perspective foreshortening by the camera, but, yeah...damn.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 15 Feb 2023, 12:59 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in Close Call at Austin:

                      with some top-down animations.

                      Found it...

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 28 Feb 2023, 12:51 last edited by
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                        Link to video

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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