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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 18:04 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Aug 2023, 18:05
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    I’m at the National Health Council’s Health Leadership Conference and a guy started his presentation with a ‘land acknowledgment’. He tailored it for Coral Gables, where the conference is, as opposed to VA which is where his foundation is based.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Horace
      wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 18:11 last edited by
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      I hope he found it cathartic. I also hope he cares enough about the indigenous people to research them for longer than it takes to craft a virtue signal intro for a speech.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Mik
        wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 18:21 last edited by
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        They had it, we took it. Just like every other piece of land has been many times.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          8 Feb 2023, 18:21

          They had it, we took it. Just like every other piece of land has been many times.

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          89th
          wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 18:50 last edited by
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          @Mik Indeed, and eventually someone will take this land from us.

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            8 Feb 2023, 18:50

            @Mik Indeed, and eventually someone will take this land from us.

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            Horace
            wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 18:59 last edited by
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            @89th said in Saw my first “land acknowledgment”:

            @Mik Indeed, and eventually someone will take this land from us.

            The Republicans are plotting this as we speak.

            Education is extremely important.

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              8 Feb 2023, 18:59

              @89th said in Saw my first “land acknowledgment”:

              @Mik Indeed, and eventually someone will take this land from us.

              The Republicans are plotting this as we speak.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 19:08 last edited by
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              @Horace

              You think? I haven’t heard as much secession talk in the first years of the Biden Administration as I did under Obama.

              My assumption is that it has to do with having a conservative court. The right was winning enough culture war skirmishes to keep the secession talk at a low simmer.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                8 Feb 2023, 19:08

                @Horace

                You think? I haven’t heard as much secession talk in the first years of the Biden Administration as I did under Obama.

                My assumption is that it has to do with having a conservative court. The right was winning enough culture war skirmishes to keep the secession talk at a low simmer.

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                Horace
                wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 19:14 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Saw my first “land acknowledgment”:

                @Horace

                You think? I haven’t heard as much secession talk in the first years of the Biden Administration as I did under Obama.

                I heard lots of talk about our Democracy being at risk just a few months ago. I bet you heard that same talk. And I bet it resonated with you.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  8 Feb 2023, 18:50

                  @Mik Indeed, and eventually someone will take this land from us.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 19:21 last edited by Renauda 2 Aug 2023, 19:22
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                  @89th

                  Arguably Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and to a much lesser extent, the Netherlands and even Russia, all have a fairly legitimate claim to various parts of all North and South America.

                  Elbows up!

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 19:40 last edited by
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                    Out of curiosity I googled “land acknowledgment generator”. There are lots of tools where you give them a North American zipcode and it spits out the tribes.

                    Some include writing advice.

                    Horace, you might find this useful:

                    When writing your statement consider whether you are in a privileged space. In some cases, acknowledgments do not need to have action items attached because the people writing the statement do not have access to resources. However, if you are writing for an organization, such as a university, you absolutely should include a call to action. The more privileged space the more capacity you have to empower the Indigenous peoples whose land you stand on.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 19:41 last edited by
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                      And there’s this:

                      1. Check Your Statement

                      Go through the following questions to ensure that your statement is sensitive, respectful, and empowers indigenous peoples.

                      1.   Have I put **at least an hour of research** into my land acknowledgment? Do I know enough about the Indigenous people I am speaking about? Did I make sure I am not missing any tribes?
                        
                      2.   Am I honest and open about the history of the Indigenous peoples I am acknowledging? Am I acknowledging their pain? Am I also acknowledging a positive future?
                        
                      3.   Did I acknowledge the past? The present? The future?
                        
                      4.   Did I identify any treaties that were signed in the past and/or are currently in effect?
                        
                      5.   Did I include an action statement that demonstrates the future actions I will do to commit to empower indigenous peoples?
                        

                      Remember, a land acknowledgment is the first step.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 21:44 last edited by
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                        Link to video

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 22:15 last edited by Copper 2 Aug 2023, 22:15
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                          Mr. Biden will invite the Chinese to come marching down Main Street USA eventually.

                          Then it will be their problem.

                          We'll see which indigenous types get their share.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 22:19 last edited by
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                            What earthly good does land acknowledgement do for any indigenous descendants, few to none of which are present at these events?

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              8 Feb 2023, 22:19

                              What earthly good does land acknowledgement do for any indigenous descendants, few to none of which are present at these events?

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 8 Feb 2023, 23:58 last edited by
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                              @Mik said in Saw my first “land acknowledgment”:

                              What earthly good does land acknowledgement do for any indigenous descendants, few to none of which are present at these events?

                              You know what's funny? They did that a lot in Oz, but they literally owned the land. (Thanks, Eddie Mabo!) So in a legal sense, it was theirs. Acknowledgement was part of the deal of companies, institutions, whomever continuing to use it. And reps from the indigenous group were present. But they were cool, the rest were cool, it made sense and it was no big deal.

                              Kinda weird this way, though.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 9 Feb 2023, 00:36 last edited by
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                                Meaningless virtue signaling.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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