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How to continue from here?

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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    In the long term, it's annoying to have two forums.

    We can of course test a bit more for a few days.

    Should we have a "Move your ass over here" post in the Tapatalk forum?

    Or should we abandon this attempt? Try a different forum software? (I can install Discourse, for instance).

    Thoughts?

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      After less than a day I think this place is OK.

      A few more days of use might reveal something unpleasant.

      So far, so good. But is there a way to get a feel for the longer term stability of this place?

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        $250 per month - that is expensive. Is there a cheaper version?

        free for open-source project (that is not us)

        https://www.capterra.com/p/161236/NodeBB/

        https://nodebb.org/pricing

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        • KlausK Offline
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          Klaus
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          #4

          This place costs money, but not much (in total right now less than $50 per year). We seem to have many volunteers who'd be willing to chip in.

          With regard to stability, my idea would be have at least three admins for the system who can take care of potential problems and who have access to the server, DNS entry etc. No hardcore sysadmin skills are needed. I've asked Jon and George whether they'd like to play these roles.

          One potential issue is the legal side. We could potentially be sued for, say, copyright violations, or child pornography, or whatnot. The person who is the formal owner - which would be me at the moment - would potentially be on the hook for that. I don't think it's a very big concern, but I wanted to bring it up.

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            OK, I was looking here: https://nodebb.org/pricing

            to see pricing, I thought $250 per month was the cheap option.

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            • KlausK Offline
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              Klaus
              wrote on last edited by Klaus
              #6

              Yes, that's the price if you let NodeBB do the hosting. It's great business for them. Their costs are very minimal, and all they do is occasionally perform an update of the software (which also happens more or less automatically in our system, too), and provide email support (which presumably goes to some poor student in India).

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              • KlausK Offline
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                Klaus
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                One other thing with regard to long-term stability:

                It's very easy to download a "snapshot" of the whole system - all installed software, all posts, all users, everything - and install it on a different server, potentially from a completely different company. So there's very little "lock in".

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #8

                  I can't say which is the best/easiest way going forward. I like this software more.

                  As for me, I will not post at (old) TNCR except to reply to things.

                  My sig over there has been changed to encourage people to come over here.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                    #9

                    About the money / funding this place:

                    • This is what WTF worked out: the admin posts a call for donations, and the admin tells people to stop donating whenever the admin has received enough donations to keep the place running for, say, 2~3 years. Repeat the same exercise whenever the reserve runs low.
                    • Corollary: because monthly expense may be tied to how much storage we use, the WTF solutions is to "purge" old content every now and then to keep the storage cost manageable. We may want to consider this when storage cost becomes an issue.

                    About transitioning from Tapatalk to this place:

                    • Pin on top a read-only topic in Tapatalk telling people to come here.
                    • Set a time table and tell people when you are going to make the Tapatalk a "read-only" place (assuming you/the Tapatalk admin have the power to make a forum "read-only")
                    • (In my little corner, I will switch coffee-room.com/tncr to redirect here per the aforementioned time table)
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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Any concerns with losing data and, more important, stats from over there? I see it has George some folks with over 100,000 posts. Then again, I don't know the history between when I left in 2015 and when I came back in 2020 with how Tapatalk even happened.

                      Klaus, if it matters, I defer my vote to the majority. I do like this platform and see no showstopper issues with it. Might as well proceed and the other one is a "safety net" fall back, if needed in the next few weeks. Nice work, again!

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        About the money / funding this place:

                        • This is what WTF worked out: the admin posts a call for donations, and the admin tells people to stop donating whenever the admin has received enough donations to keep the place running for, say, 2~3 years. Repeat the same exercise whenever the reserve runs low.
                        • Corollary: because monthly expense may be tied to how much storage we use, the WTF solutions is to "purge" old content every now and then to keep the storage cost manageable. We may want to consider this when storage cost becomes an issue.

                        About transitioning from Tapatalk to this place:

                        • Pin on top a read-only topic in Tapatalk telling people to come here.
                        • Set a time table and tell people when you are going to make the Tapatalk a "read-only" place (assuming you/the Tapatalk admin have the power to make a forum "read-only")
                        • (In my little corner, I will switch coffee-room.com/tncr to redirect here per the aforementioned time table)
                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Axtremus said

                        About transitioning from Tapatalk to this place:

                        • Pin on top a read-only topic in Tapatalk telling people to come here.
                        • Set a time table and tell people when you are going to make the Tapatalk a "read-only" place (assuming you/the Tapatalk admin have make a forum "read-only")
                        • (In my little corner, I will switch coffee-room.com/tncr to redirect here per the aforementioned time table)

                        I like that idea.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          In the long term, it's annoying to have two forums.

                          We can of course test a bit more for a few days.

                          Should we have a "Move your ass over here" post in the Tapatalk forum?

                          Or should we abandon this attempt? Try a different forum software? (I can install Discourse, for instance).

                          Thoughts?

                          CopperC Offline
                          CopperC Offline
                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @Klaus Tncr2.jpg

                          This used to appear at the top of our forum pages, way back when.

                          Can we do this?

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                          • KlausK Offline
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                            Klaus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Yes

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                            • KlausK Offline
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                              Klaus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              (see how you can now write posts with less then six letters? 🙂

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                              • KlausK Offline
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                                Klaus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                How is this?

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                                • CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  12

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    @Klaus Tncr2.jpg

                                    This used to appear at the top of our forum pages, way back when.

                                    Can we do this?

                                    89th8 Offline
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                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @Copper said in How to continue from here?:

                                    @Klaus Tncr2.jpg

                                    This used to appear at the top of our forum pages, way back when.

                                    Can we do this?

                                    Nice banner! I think (?) I actually made that way back when...

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                                    • 89th8 Offline
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                                      89th
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      Although....on my mobile device the banner blocks the top links, like to return to the forum, or adjust sorting settings.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @Copper said in How to continue from here?:

                                        @Klaus Tncr2.jpg

                                        This used to appear at the top of our forum pages, way back when.

                                        Can we do this?

                                        Nice banner! I think (?) I actually made that way back when...

                                        CopperC Offline
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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @89th said in How to continue from here?:

                                        I actually made that way back when

                                        You made the left half.

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                                        • KlausK Offline
                                          KlausK Offline
                                          Klaus
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          I disabled the logo for now because it screws up the layout on mobile devices. I'll try to get that sorted out later.

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