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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/01/30/boy-scout-duluth-sleeps-outside/

    For more than 1,000 nights, Isaac Ortman, 14, has slept beneath the stars in his backyard in Duluth, Minn., including on a night when the temperature dipped to minus-38 degrees. …

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      Not done -38°, 4° has been my lowest, but I have probably slept outdoors in freezing temperatures probably two dozen nights, and that was in a 3 season tent. With a good base layer, decent socks, and an excellent bag, it’s comfortable. Probably need a 4 season tent for -38°, and a balaclava for the ears.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Not done -38°, 4° has been my lowest, but I have probably slept outdoors in freezing temperatures probably two dozen nights, and that was in a 3 season tent. With a good base layer, decent socks, and an excellent bag, it’s comfortable. Probably need a 4 season tent for -38°, and a balaclava for the ears.

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        @LuFins-Dad said in Uhm … Minnesota …:

        Not done -38°, 4° has been my lowest, but I have probably slept outdoors in freezing temperatures probably two dozen nights, and that was in a 3 season tent. With a good base layer, decent socks, and an excellent bag, it’s comfortable. Probably need a 4 season tent for -38°, and a balaclava for the ears.

        I was in a light tent one night in around 14-degree weather and it was pretty miserable. Sleeting, with cold that went straight through to the bone. Had a fire outside, and it's bad when you'd rather stand in the sleet by a big fire than crawl in your sleeping bag.

        Buddy of mine from Wolf Creek, WV told me what to do next time, and it worked. Back in the days when they had those self-serve newspaper machines, you put a quarter in and take every paper they've got. Repeat all over town, until you have enough newspapers to line the bottom of a small tent 1-2 inches deep.

        It helps.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Woke up this morning, real-feel temp of -29 (actual temp -14). Honestly it comes down to the humidity... if you get a damp cold at 20 above, that is significantly harsher than 20 below and dry.

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            Used to go winter camping as a teenager quite regularly. Usually built a lean-to with spruce bows. Would an add a wool blanket and flannel sheet inside the sleeping bag. Temperature would regularly drop to -25 c or so at night. Don’t recall ever being cold.

            Hardest part was emerging from the cozy bag in the morning.

            Elbows up!

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              https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/01/30/boy-scout-duluth-sleeps-outside/

              For more than 1,000 nights, Isaac Ortman, 14, has slept beneath the stars in his backyard in Duluth, Minn., including on a night when the temperature dipped to minus-38 degrees. …

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              @Axtremus said in Uhm … Minnesota …:

              has slept beneath the stars in his backyard in Duluth, Minn., including on a night when the temperature dipped to minus-38 degrees. …

              I watched a documentary one time about a Russian fur trapper, who basically spent all winter outdoors. He was being interviewed in a cabin that was maybe 45 F, and he was sweating. LOL

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                How do you tell when it's 45 degrees in Alaska?

                The kids wear shorts and t-shirts to school.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  Used to go winter camping as a teenager quite regularly. Usually built a lean-to with spruce bows. Would an add a wool blanket and flannel sheet inside the sleeping bag. Temperature would regularly drop to -25 c or so at night. Don’t recall ever being cold.

                  Hardest part was emerging from the cozy bag in the morning.

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                  @Renauda said in Uhm … Minnesota …:

                  Used to go winter camping as a teenager quite regularly. Usually built a lean-to with spruce bows. Would an add a wool blanket and flannel sheet inside the sleeping bag. Temperature would regularly drop to -25 c or so at night. Don’t recall ever being cold.

                  Hardest part was emerging from the cozy bag in the morning.

                  Yep. A good bag and layers…

                  @Jolly thanks for reminding me about having a decent ground insulation. That’s very important…

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Renauda said in Uhm … Minnesota …:

                    Used to go winter camping as a teenager quite regularly. Usually built a lean-to with spruce bows. Would an add a wool blanket and flannel sheet inside the sleeping bag. Temperature would regularly drop to -25 c or so at night. Don’t recall ever being cold.

                    Hardest part was emerging from the cozy bag in the morning.

                    Yep. A good bag and layers…

                    @Jolly thanks for reminding me about having a decent ground insulation. That’s very important…

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                    @LuFins-Dad

                    Again we would use spruce boughs for ground insulation or, if practicable, for $2 buy a square bale of straw from a local farmer and spread it out in the sleeping area. Either worked quite well although I would say the straw was the better of the two for ground insulation during real cold nights.

                    Elbows up!

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                      @LuFins-Dad

                      Again we would use spruce boughs for ground insulation or, if practicable, for $2 buy a square bale of straw from a local farmer and spread it out in the sleeping area. Either worked quite well although I would say the straw was the better of the two for ground insulation during real cold nights.

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                      @Renauda said in Uhm … Minnesota …:

                      @LuFins-Dad

                      Again we would use spruce boughs for ground insulation or, if practicable, for $2 buy a square bale of straw from a local farmer and spread it out in the sleeping area. Either worked quite well although I would say the straw was the better of the two for ground insulation during real cold nights.

                      I’m curious since it was a lean-to, did you build a small fire at the open area?

                      The Brad

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                        I dug a snow cave at the base of a fir tree. Fir boughs stuck through the entrance, I thought it would be a clever "door."
                        The candle and body heat warmed things up enough, that throughout the night, little worms would hatch in the fir boughs and come down via their single string of web-like stuff, and start crawling. They were all over the place. Learned a lesson there.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Renauda said in Uhm … Minnesota …:

                          @LuFins-Dad

                          Again we would use spruce boughs for ground insulation or, if practicable, for $2 buy a square bale of straw from a local farmer and spread it out in the sleeping area. Either worked quite well although I would say the straw was the better of the two for ground insulation during real cold nights.

                          I’m curious since it was a lean-to, did you build a small fire at the open area?

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                          @LuFins-Dad

                          Yes. We would sometimes set up a reflector - horizontally stacked and staked 2” diameter branches covered in shiny side up aluminium foil - behind the fire that theoretically radiated some of the heat back into the lean-to. For the most part though when it go below -20 or so we would take shifts tending the fire through the night.

                          Elbows up!

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