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  • 89th8 89th

    @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

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    @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

    they broke the windows nearby

    They used a police shield to break the windows.

    Did the police break it or did they give their shield to a doofuss?

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

      @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

      I’d be curious to see those. I was under the impression the doors were unlocked. I remember one video where a cop was standing by while trespassers walked through an open door.

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      @Horace said in Thousands of lives ruined:

      @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

      @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

      I’d be curious to see those. I was under the impression the doors were unlocked. I remember one video where a cop was standing by while trespassers walked through an open door.

      That happened too, but also at that point the single cop wasn’t going to prevent the human wave. I’ll see if I can find a video. The baby is sleeping in my arms…honestly now sure how parents held newborns for hours without a smartphone to stay entertained.

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        Around the 1:38 mark

        Link to video

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        • 89th8 89th

          @Horace said in Thousands of lives ruined:

          @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

          @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

          I’d be curious to see those. I was under the impression the doors were unlocked. I remember one video where a cop was standing by while trespassers walked through an open door.

          That happened too, but also at that point the single cop wasn’t going to prevent the human wave. I’ll see if I can find a video. The baby is sleeping in my arms…honestly now sure how parents held newborns for hours without a smartphone to stay entertained.

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          @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

          at that point the single cop wasn’t going to prevent the human wave

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            Longer and better video. Around 11:00 with the door being kicked open at 13:50.

            Link to video

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              What's really amazing about this is that only one person was shot.

              It could very easily have been a bloodbath. I imagine that eventuality would have given Tucker Carlson enormous pleasure, as he could talk about the tyranny of the government.

              I was only joking

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                Tucker has his shtick, no doubt about it. He's not always wrong. In fact, many times he's right. Same thing for Hannity.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Tucker has his shtick, no doubt about it. He's not always wrong. In fact, many times he's right. Same thing for Hannity.

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                  @Jolly said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                  Tucker has his shtick, no doubt about it. He's not always wrong. In fact, many times he's right. Same thing for Hannity.

                  When somebody always takes one side of the partisan fence it ceases to matter whether he's right or not, because you know how he's going to spin it. The same thing applies to CNN etc.

                  Sometimes the Republicans are right, sometimes the Democrats are right. Somebody who's honest should be able to acknowledge this. What Trump did prior to January 6th was flat out wrong.

                  I was only joking

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Around the 1:38 mark

                    Link to video

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                    @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                    Around the 1:38 mark

                    Link to video

                    Thanks 89th.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      When I watch that video it makes me wish Ashley Babbitt had been part of a statistic rather than a mere tragedy.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        When I watch that video it makes me wish Ashley Babbitt had been part of a statistic rather than a mere tragedy.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                        When I watch that video it makes me wish Ashley Babbitt had been part of a statistic rather than a mere tragedy.

                        That’s because you are emotionally captured, and thus part of the problem.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          I used to think that the country would have been better off if they had opened fire with automatic weapons when the police barricades were first breeched.

                          My reasoning wasn’t so much wanting them all dead, rather that there should be some serious downside to attempting such a thing, besides “it probably won’t work”.

                          I no longer believe that. I think the relentless efforts of the DoJ in bringing these guys to justice - IOW the very acts that Jolly gets so riled up about- have served the same ultimate purpose without the bloodshed.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            I used to think that the country would have been better off if they had opened fire with automatic weapons when the police barricades were first breeched.

                            My reasoning wasn’t so much wanting them all dead, rather that there should be some serious downside to attempting such a thing, besides “it probably won’t work”.

                            I no longer believe that. I think the relentless efforts of the DoJ in bringing these guys to justice - IOW the very acts that Jolly gets so riled up about- have served the same ultimate purpose without the bloodshed.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                            I used to think that the country would have been better off if they had opened fire with automatic weapons when the police barricades were first breeched.

                            My reasoning wasn’t so much wanting them all dead, rather that there should be some serious downside to attempting such a thing, besides “it probably won’t work”.

                            I no longer believe that. I think the relentless efforts of the DoJ in bringing these guys to justice - IOW the very acts that Jolly gets so riled up about- have served the same ultimate purpose without the bloodshed.

                            Yes I remember your fantasies about mowing down magats on the lawn if they breached the white house gates. It’s good that with some emotional distance and some tangible observed non lethal punishment, your bloodlust can be slaked by other means.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @jon-nyc said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                              I used to think that the country would have been better off if they had opened fire with automatic weapons when the police barricades were first breeched.

                              My reasoning wasn’t so much wanting them all dead, rather that there should be some serious downside to attempting such a thing, besides “it probably won’t work”.

                              I no longer believe that. I think the relentless efforts of the DoJ in bringing these guys to justice - IOW the very acts that Jolly gets so riled up about- have served the same ultimate purpose without the bloodshed.

                              Yes I remember your fantasies about mowing down magats on the lawn if they breached the white house gates. It’s good that with some emotional distance and some tangible observed non lethal punishment, your bloodlust can be slaked by other means.

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                              @Horace

                              Well it wasn’t a fantasy about the white house, it was a simple statement of fact that no one here disputed - that is, if such a mob had descended upon and breeched the whitehouse the secret service would have gone, quite literally, ballistic. To this day no one has claimed to believe otherwise.

                              And as I indicated it wasn’t blood lust driving the desire for some kind of similar treatment of the Capitol. As I said back in 2021 and again in my previous post, it is necessary that these indoctrinated doofuses see a significant downside that will prevent similar crimes in the future. I think the diligence of the DoJ has provided that. If it were bloodlust I were trying to satisfy then clearly I would find the DoJ’s efforts lacking.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                I used to think that the country would have been better off if they had opened fire with automatic weapons when the police barricades were first breeched.

                                My reasoning wasn’t so much wanting them all dead, rather that there should be some serious downside to attempting such a thing, besides “it probably won’t work”.

                                I no longer believe that. I think the relentless efforts of the DoJ in bringing these guys to justice - IOW the very acts that Jolly gets so riled up about- have served the same ultimate purpose without the bloodshed.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                I used to think that the country would have been better off if they had opened fire with automatic weapons when the police barricades were first breeched.

                                My reasoning wasn’t so much wanting them all dead, rather that there should be some serious downside to attempting such a thing, besides “it probably won’t work”.

                                I no longer believe that. I think the relentless efforts of the DoJ in bringing these guys to justice - IOW the very acts that Jolly gets so riled up about- have served the same ultimate purpose without the bloodshed.

                                Never forget. you, and all you ever were or are going to be, will be frozen in time with the application of four pounds of pressure.

                                Be careful what you wish for...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  I’m not sure I understand. Let’s stick with the classic momento mori and leave it at that.

                                  But sure, I will very carefully wish that these indoctrinated doofuses see sufficient downside not to repeat this.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    Around the 1:38 mark

                                    Link to video

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                                    @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                    Around the 1:38 mark

                                    Link to video

                                    Thanks. I must admit to being caught off guard by the fact that the US Capitol is secured by frigging laminated glass.

                                    I also am surprised by the lack of tear gas, high pressure hoses, and other riot measures that weren’t implemented.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      I’m not sure I understand. Let’s stick with the classic momento mori and leave it at that.

                                      But sure, I will very carefully wish that these indoctrinated doofuses see sufficient downside not to repeat this.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                      I’m not sure I understand. Let’s stick with the classic momento mori and leave it at that.

                                      But sure, I will very carefully wish that these indoctrinated doofuses see sufficient downside not to repeat this.

                                      Once you go down the road of killing indiscriminately for political gain, the trigger pressure of a Glock is around four pounds. One 115g hollowpoint in your ear, means a closed casket funeral.

                                      And anybody can pull a trigger...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                        Around the 1:38 mark

                                        Link to video

                                        Thanks. I must admit to being caught off guard by the fact that the US Capitol is secured by frigging laminated glass.

                                        I also am surprised by the lack of tear gas, high pressure hoses, and other riot measures that weren’t implemented.

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                        @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                        Around the 1:38 mark

                                        Link to video

                                        Thanks. I must admit to being caught off guard by the fact that the US Capitol is secured by frigging laminated glass.

                                        I also am surprised by the lack of tear gas, high pressure hoses, and other riot measures that weren’t implemented.

                                        Not having riot gear at the Capitol has worked for hundreds of years so far.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @jon-nyc said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                          I’m not sure I understand. Let’s stick with the classic momento mori and leave it at that.

                                          But sure, I will very carefully wish that these indoctrinated doofuses see sufficient downside not to repeat this.

                                          Once you go down the road of killing indiscriminately for political gain, the trigger pressure of a Glock is around four pounds. One 115g hollowpoint in your ear, means a closed casket funeral.

                                          And anybody can pull a trigger...

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          @Jolly Shooting people who have violently breached a seat of government is hardly indiscriminate.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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