Remember this Jan 6th guy?
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wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 12:16 last edited by jon-nyc
Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.
Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.
Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?
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Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.
Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.
Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?
wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 13:04 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?
Jolly wouldn't know that it happened.
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Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.
Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.
Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?
wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 13:22 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.
Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.
Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?
Totally what I’ve been saying to Larry and others when they said I was biased because of not liking Trump.
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@jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.
Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.
Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?
Totally what I’ve been saying to Larry and others when they said I was biased because of not liking Trump.
wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 13:24 last edited by@89th said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
@jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.
Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.
Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?
Totally what I’ve been saying to Larry and others when they said I was biased because of not liking Trump.
I am a patriot, you are biased, he is a traitor.
I remember when people suggesting that the Iraq war might not be great idea were branded traitors. When Trump said it 15 years later, he was a freaking genius.
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wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 14:58 last edited by Jolly
Here's not a thought experiment...When Antifa rioted around the Whitehouse and the President and his family had to shelter in a bunker, remind me once again how many people were arrested and charged, how many protesters languished in jail for months without hearings or trial and how many did any serious jail time.
Shucks, did any do more than 30 days in jail?
And I mentioned a single instance. Look at what else happened during that Summer of Love. The arson. The Lootings. Death in the street.
How many people did any serious jail time for any of that? How many were denied hearings or trials for months? How many were denied bail for trespassing charges?
And how was all this violence portrayed in the media? On one hand, we have angry citizens engaging in mostly peaceful protests...Never mind many are masked, have used the internet to network for violence, are carrying firearms and other weapons, and are burning buildings, looting and killing people in the streets. OTOH, we have a dumbass with his feet propped up on Pelosi's desk and a painted idiot wandering the halls of the Capitol wearing a shaman's headress, and the existence of the whole country is at peril, requiring armed troops with chambered live rounds to protect the peaceful streets of Washington.
No, we had extreme tolerance vs. no tolerance. We had two different media perceptions for similar acts. We had little or no justice on one hand, and vengeance masquerading as justice on another. We had an absolute political dog and pony in one of the most supposedly deliberative bodies in the world, where almost half the body was not represented, in order to assure information, evidence and outcomes were all set in stone before the hearings were gaveled into existence.
It was a travesty and miscarriage of justice the American people should hang their collective heads over, in disgust and shame.
How stands the Union, Mr. Webster? I think he would say not worth a damn. To treat citizens differently in our Justice System, simply because of political whim, crumbles the very mortar of our Union, making a mockery of the Constitution.
Y'all can stop the even-handed bullshit right now, because it's going over like a lead balloon. There has been none.
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wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 15:01 last edited by
I will never forget the complete lack of outrage during the violent and long term takeover of the Seattle neighborhood, by leftists.
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Here's not a thought experiment...When Antifa rioted around the Whitehouse and the President and his family had to shelter in a bunker, remind me once again how many people were arrested and charged, how many protesters languished in jail for months without hearings or trial and how many did any serious jail time.
Shucks, did any do more than 30 days in jail?
And I mentioned a single instance. Look at what else happened during that Summer of Love. The arson. The Lootings. Death in the street.
How many people did any serious jail time for any of that? How many were denied hearings or trials for months? How many were denied bail for trespassing charges?
And how was all this violence portrayed in the media? On one hand, we have angry citizens engaging in mostly peaceful protests...Never mind many are masked, have used the internet to network for violence, are carrying firearms and other weapons, and are burning buildings, looting and killing people in the streets. OTOH, we have a dumbass with his feet propped up on Pelosi's desk and a painted idiot wandering the halls of the Capitol wearing a shaman's headress, and the existence of the whole country is at peril, requiring armed troops with chambered live rounds to protect the peaceful streets of Washington.
No, we had extreme tolerance vs. no tolerance. We had two different media perceptions for similar acts. We had little or no justice on one hand, and vengeance masquerading as justice on another. We had an absolute political dog and pony in one of the most supposedly deliberative bodies in the world, where almost half the body was not represented, in order to assure information, evidence and outcomes were all set in stone before the hearings were gaveled into existence.
It was a travesty and miscarriage of justice the American people should hang their collective heads over, in disgust and shame.
How stands the Union, Mr. Webster? I think he would say not worth a damn. To treat citizens differently in our Justice System, simply because of political whim, crumbles the very mortar of our Union, making a mockery of the Constitution.
Y'all can stop the even-handed bullshit right now, because it's going over like a lead balloon. There has been none.
wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 15:02 last edited by@Jolly said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
...When Antifa rioted around the Whitehouse and the President and his family had to shelter in a bunker, ...
Did you make that up? When did that happen? Was the White House physically breached by Antifa in that purported incident?
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@Jolly said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
...When Antifa rioted around the Whitehouse and the President and his family had to shelter in a bunker, ...
Did you make that up? When did that happen? Was the White House physically breached by Antifa in that purported incident?
wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 15:07 last edited by@Axtremus said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
Did you make that up? When did that happen?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/
MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.
The attacks came after President Trump was reportedly moved to a secure bunker usually used during terror attacks as heated protests escalated across Washington D.C.
Agents rushed Trump to the state-of-the-art Presidential Emergency Operations Center as they were concerned for his safety, the New York Times reported.
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@Axtremus said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
Did you make that up? When did that happen?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/
MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.
The attacks came after President Trump was reportedly moved to a secure bunker usually used during terror attacks as heated protests escalated across Washington D.C.
Agents rushed Trump to the state-of-the-art Presidential Emergency Operations Center as they were concerned for his safety, the New York Times reported.
wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 15:09 last edited by@George-K said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
@Axtremus said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
Did you make that up? When did that happen?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/
MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.
The attacks came after President Trump was reportedly moved to a secure bunker usually used during terror attacks as heated protests escalated across Washington D.C.
Agents rushed Trump to the state-of-the-art Presidential Emergency Operations Center as they were concerned for his safety, the New York Times reported.
You have more patience with that dipshit than I do. I was not going to be his Google mommy.
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@Axtremus said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
Did you make that up? When did that happen?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/
MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.
The attacks came after President Trump was reportedly moved to a secure bunker usually used during terror attacks as heated protests escalated across Washington D.C.
Agents rushed Trump to the state-of-the-art Presidential Emergency Operations Center as they were concerned for his safety, the New York Times reported.
wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 15:36 last edited by@George-K said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/
MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.
...Thanks @George-K.
There is no indication of Antifa in that riot, so it's not clear if that fits @Jolly's description.
That reporting also does not indicate any physical breach of the White House, hence the incident is not comparable to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. (It may be comparable if the Jan. 6 Capitol riot never physically breached the Capitol, but we would all be having a different conversation if the Capitol was never breached on Jan. 6.)
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wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 15:59 last edited by
OTOH, we have a dumbass with his feet propped up on Pelosi's desk and a painted idiot wandering the halls of the Capitol wearing a shaman's headress, and the existence of the whole country is at peril, requiring armed troops with chambered live rounds to protect the peaceful streets of Washington.
I know you’ve nestled yourself in a comforting information cocoon but do you really think that’s all that went on?
I could show you video if so.
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OTOH, we have a dumbass with his feet propped up on Pelosi's desk and a painted idiot wandering the halls of the Capitol wearing a shaman's headress, and the existence of the whole country is at peril, requiring armed troops with chambered live rounds to protect the peaceful streets of Washington.
I know you’ve nestled yourself in a comforting information cocoon but do you really think that’s all that went on?
I could show you video if so.
wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 17:28 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:
OTOH, we have a dumbass with his feet propped up on Pelosi's desk and a painted idiot wandering the halls of the Capitol wearing a shaman's headress, and the existence of the whole country is at peril, requiring armed troops with chambered live rounds to protect the peaceful streets of Washington.
I know you’ve nestled yourself in a comforting information cocoon but do you really think that’s all that went on?
I could show you video if so.
No, but it's an illustration of exactly what ultimate damage the riot caused and the injustice of some of the sentences.
To have a country, you must have impartial justice. Vendettas do not end well.