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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    Great so it seems the framing of the event as a legit coup attempt, a framing which will be enshrined in textbooks fed to kids in perpetuity going forward, is wrong. But let's make sure the important point here, is that these indoctrinated doofuses with no critical thinking skills and a taste for mosh pits, are treated in the most extraordinary manner possible. For great justice.

    Education is extremely important.

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      xenon
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      I hate to make this comparison - because Nazis - and don't even really know what my point is with it. But, didn't the Nazi's have a comically bad attempted coup in the 1920s?

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      • X xenon

        I hate to make this comparison - because Nazis - and don't even really know what my point is with it. But, didn't the Nazi's have a comically bad attempted coup in the 1920s?

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        @xenon

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

        You were warned.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          Great so it seems the framing of the event as a legit coup attempt, a framing which will be enshrined in textbooks fed to kids in perpetuity going forward, is wrong. But let's make sure the important point here, is that these indoctrinated doofuses with no critical thinking skills and a taste for mosh pits, are treated in the most extraordinary manner possible. For great justice.

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          @Horace said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

          But let's make sure the important point here, is that these indoctrinated doofuses with no critical thinking skills and a taste for mosh pits,

          How does that description not apply to this particular asshole being discussed here?

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Horace said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

            But let's make sure the important point here, is that these indoctrinated doofuses with no critical thinking skills and a taste for mosh pits,

            How does that description not apply to this particular asshole being discussed here?

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

            @Horace said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

            But let's make sure the important point here, is that these indoctrinated doofuses with no critical thinking skills and a taste for mosh pits,

            How does that description not apply to this particular asshole being discussed here?

            I thought it was?

            Education is extremely important.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              #16

              We finally have a photo of the court proceedings...

              alt text

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                We finally have a photo of the court proceedings...

                alt text

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                @Jolly said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                We finally have a photo of the court proceedings...

                alt text

                What do you think he should have been charged with instead?

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Jolly said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                  We finally have a photo of the court proceedings...

                  alt text

                  What do you think he should have been charged with instead?

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                  #18

                  @Aqua-Letifer

                  What do you think he should have been charged with instead?

                  Like the Grateful Dead tune says:

                  “Then the heat came round and busted me for smiling on a cloudy day”

                  Elbows up!

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Jolly said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                    We finally have a photo of the court proceedings...

                    alt text

                    What do you think he should have been charged with instead?

                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                    What do you think he should have been charged with instead?

                    They should have brought Georgie Dubya in and had him charge them with 'tourism'. He'd be in Guantanamo by now.

                    I was only joking

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                      #20

                      Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.

                      Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.

                      Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?

                      You were warned.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.

                        Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.

                        Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?

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                        @jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                        Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?

                        Jolly wouldn't know that it happened.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.

                          Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.

                          Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?

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                          @jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                          Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.

                          Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.

                          Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?

                          Totally what I’ve been saying to Larry and others when they said I was biased because of not liking Trump.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                            Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.

                            Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.

                            Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?

                            Totally what I’ve been saying to Larry and others when they said I was biased because of not liking Trump.

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                            @89th said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                            @jon-nyc said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                            Here’s a thought experiment - imagine Antifa or BLM had stormed the Capitol to stop Trumps inauguration. Imagine every single other detail being identical, from cops getting beaten and crushed on video to one enterprising thuggette trying to breech the area where the representatives were hiding and ending up with lead poisoning, to the stupidest of clownish selfies.

                            Further imagine all arrests and detentions and pleas and prosecutions took place as they have.

                            Who here thinks Jolly would have concerns about ‘Kangaroo Courts’ in this alternative universe?

                            Totally what I’ve been saying to Larry and others when they said I was biased because of not liking Trump.

                            I am a patriot, you are biased, he is a traitor.

                            I remember when people suggesting that the Iraq war might not be great idea were branded traitors. When Trump said it 15 years later, he was a freaking genius.

                            I was only joking

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                              Jolly
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                              #24

                              Here's not a thought experiment...When Antifa rioted around the Whitehouse and the President and his family had to shelter in a bunker, remind me once again how many people were arrested and charged, how many protesters languished in jail for months without hearings or trial and how many did any serious jail time.

                              Shucks, did any do more than 30 days in jail?

                              And I mentioned a single instance. Look at what else happened during that Summer of Love. The arson. The Lootings. Death in the street.

                              How many people did any serious jail time for any of that? How many were denied hearings or trials for months? How many were denied bail for trespassing charges?

                              And how was all this violence portrayed in the media? On one hand, we have angry citizens engaging in mostly peaceful protests...Never mind many are masked, have used the internet to network for violence, are carrying firearms and other weapons, and are burning buildings, looting and killing people in the streets. OTOH, we have a dumbass with his feet propped up on Pelosi's desk and a painted idiot wandering the halls of the Capitol wearing a shaman's headress, and the existence of the whole country is at peril, requiring armed troops with chambered live rounds to protect the peaceful streets of Washington.

                              No, we had extreme tolerance vs. no tolerance. We had two different media perceptions for similar acts. We had little or no justice on one hand, and vengeance masquerading as justice on another. We had an absolute political dog and pony in one of the most supposedly deliberative bodies in the world, where almost half the body was not represented, in order to assure information, evidence and outcomes were all set in stone before the hearings were gaveled into existence.

                              It was a travesty and miscarriage of justice the American people should hang their collective heads over, in disgust and shame.

                              How stands the Union, Mr. Webster? I think he would say not worth a damn. To treat citizens differently in our Justice System, simply because of political whim, crumbles the very mortar of our Union, making a mockery of the Constitution.

                              Y'all can stop the even-handed bullshit right now, because it's going over like a lead balloon. There has been none.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                I will never forget the complete lack of outrage during the violent and long term takeover of the Seattle neighborhood, by leftists.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Here's not a thought experiment...When Antifa rioted around the Whitehouse and the President and his family had to shelter in a bunker, remind me once again how many people were arrested and charged, how many protesters languished in jail for months without hearings or trial and how many did any serious jail time.

                                  Shucks, did any do more than 30 days in jail?

                                  And I mentioned a single instance. Look at what else happened during that Summer of Love. The arson. The Lootings. Death in the street.

                                  How many people did any serious jail time for any of that? How many were denied hearings or trials for months? How many were denied bail for trespassing charges?

                                  And how was all this violence portrayed in the media? On one hand, we have angry citizens engaging in mostly peaceful protests...Never mind many are masked, have used the internet to network for violence, are carrying firearms and other weapons, and are burning buildings, looting and killing people in the streets. OTOH, we have a dumbass with his feet propped up on Pelosi's desk and a painted idiot wandering the halls of the Capitol wearing a shaman's headress, and the existence of the whole country is at peril, requiring armed troops with chambered live rounds to protect the peaceful streets of Washington.

                                  No, we had extreme tolerance vs. no tolerance. We had two different media perceptions for similar acts. We had little or no justice on one hand, and vengeance masquerading as justice on another. We had an absolute political dog and pony in one of the most supposedly deliberative bodies in the world, where almost half the body was not represented, in order to assure information, evidence and outcomes were all set in stone before the hearings were gaveled into existence.

                                  It was a travesty and miscarriage of justice the American people should hang their collective heads over, in disgust and shame.

                                  How stands the Union, Mr. Webster? I think he would say not worth a damn. To treat citizens differently in our Justice System, simply because of political whim, crumbles the very mortar of our Union, making a mockery of the Constitution.

                                  Y'all can stop the even-handed bullshit right now, because it's going over like a lead balloon. There has been none.

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                                  @Jolly said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                                  ...When Antifa rioted around the Whitehouse and the President and his family had to shelter in a bunker, ...

                                  Did you make that up? When did that happen? Was the White House physically breached by Antifa in that purported incident?

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @Jolly said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                                    ...When Antifa rioted around the Whitehouse and the President and his family had to shelter in a bunker, ...

                                    Did you make that up? When did that happen? Was the White House physically breached by Antifa in that purported incident?

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                                    @Axtremus said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                                    Did you make that up? When did that happen?

                                    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/

                                    MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.

                                    The attacks came after President Trump was reportedly moved to a secure bunker usually used during terror attacks as heated protests escalated across Washington D.C.

                                    Agents rushed Trump to the state-of-the-art Presidential Emergency Operations Center as they were concerned for his safety, the New York Times reported.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @Axtremus said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                                      Did you make that up? When did that happen?

                                      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/

                                      MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.

                                      The attacks came after President Trump was reportedly moved to a secure bunker usually used during terror attacks as heated protests escalated across Washington D.C.

                                      Agents rushed Trump to the state-of-the-art Presidential Emergency Operations Center as they were concerned for his safety, the New York Times reported.

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                                      @George-K said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                                      @Axtremus said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                                      Did you make that up? When did that happen?

                                      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/

                                      MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.

                                      The attacks came after President Trump was reportedly moved to a secure bunker usually used during terror attacks as heated protests escalated across Washington D.C.

                                      Agents rushed Trump to the state-of-the-art Presidential Emergency Operations Center as they were concerned for his safety, the New York Times reported.

                                      You have more patience with that dipshit than I do. I was not going to be his Google mommy.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        @Axtremus said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                                        Did you make that up? When did that happen?

                                        https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/

                                        MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.

                                        The attacks came after President Trump was reportedly moved to a secure bunker usually used during terror attacks as heated protests escalated across Washington D.C.

                                        Agents rushed Trump to the state-of-the-art Presidential Emergency Operations Center as they were concerned for his safety, the New York Times reported.

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                                        @George-K said in Remember this Jan 6th guy?:

                                        https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/

                                        MORE than 50 Secret Service agents have been injured during ugly clashes outside the White House on a sixth night of violence sparked by the death of George Floyd.
                                        ...

                                        Thanks @George-K.

                                        There is no indication of Antifa in that riot, so it's not clear if that fits @Jolly's description.

                                        That reporting also does not indicate any physical breach of the White House, hence the incident is not comparable to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. (It may be comparable if the Jan. 6 Capitol riot never physically breached the Capitol, but we would all be having a different conversation if the Capitol was never breached on Jan. 6.)

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                                          @Jolly

                                          OTOH, we have a dumbass with his feet propped up on Pelosi's desk and a painted idiot wandering the halls of the Capitol wearing a shaman's headress, and the existence of the whole country is at peril, requiring armed troops with chambered live rounds to protect the peaceful streets of Washington.

                                          I know you’ve nestled yourself in a comforting information cocoon but do you really think that’s all that went on?

                                          I could show you video if so.

                                          You were warned.

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