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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    #35

    Just watched listened to the video during my commute. They kind of meandered around the timeline, but in general it was a major downer to listen to. I can't imagine that type of incessant pain.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #36

      Pain is non-negotiable without some sort of superpower over one's nervous system. One can be forgiven for not wanting to go on.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • KlausK Offline
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        Klaus
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        #37

        I'm going to attend one of his shows this year, together with a friend.

        His tour is quite impressive. Around 70 venues, many of them already fully booked.

        I wonder how much he makes with a tour like that. If we assume an average ticket price of $60 and an average capacity of 2,500 and around 70 events, that would yield an income of around 10 million $. If he can keep just 1/3 of that, it would be a sizeable sum.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          @klaus said in Jordan Peterson Update:

          I'm going to attend one of his shows this year, together with a friend.

          His tour is quite impressive. Around 70 venues, many of them already fully booked.

          I wonder how much he makes with a tour like that. If we assume an average ticket price of $60 and an average capacity of 2,500 and around 70 events, that would yield an income of around 10 million $. If he can keep just 1/3 of that, it would be a sizeable sum.

          Let me know how the show goes. When he starts doing Exodus I'll be buying a ticket.

          Please love yourself.

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          • KlausK Offline
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            Klaus
            wrote on last edited by Klaus
            #39

            We'll make a trip to Slovenia for the show and combine it with a biking trip. That'll be fun - Slovenia is quite beautiful.

            For some reason, his tour avoids Western (Continental) Europe like the plague.

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            • KlausK Klaus

              We'll make a trip to Slovenia for the show and combine it with a biking trip. That'll be fun - Slovenia is quite beautiful.

              For some reason, his tour avoids Western (Continental) Europe like the plague.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #40

              @klaus said in Jordan Peterson Update:

              We'll make a trip to Slovenia for the show and combine it with a biking trip. That'll be fun - Slovenia is quite beautiful.

              For some reason, his tour avoids Western (Continental) Europe like the plague.

              His books were translated for those countries, but he's never toured there. So my understanding is that this tour is for those places.

              Please love yourself.

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                xenon
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                #41

                I enjoy his podcasts, but he needs to lay off Twitter.

                He’s really started to roll in the mud.

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                • X xenon

                  I enjoy his podcasts, but he needs to lay off Twitter.

                  He’s really started to roll in the mud.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #42

                  @xenon said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                  I enjoy his podcasts, but he needs to lay off Twitter.

                  He’s really started to roll in the mud.

                  He has, but look at all the weird shit he's had to put up with:

                  • spends a year almost dying
                  • gets shadow-cancelled at Cambridge
                  • gets turned into a Marvel supervillain

                  Oh and all of this, everything you do, is made very public and there's a community the size of Los Angeles out there on the internets who want you taken the fuck down, all day, every day.

                  How perfectly would you handle shit like that? In that context I'm amazed he hasn't gone full Britney.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @xenon said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                    I enjoy his podcasts, but he needs to lay off Twitter.

                    He’s really started to roll in the mud.

                    He has, but look at all the weird shit he's had to put up with:

                    • spends a year almost dying
                    • gets shadow-cancelled at Cambridge
                    • gets turned into a Marvel supervillain

                    Oh and all of this, everything you do, is made very public and there's a community the size of Los Angeles out there on the internets who want you taken the fuck down, all day, every day.

                    How perfectly would you handle shit like that? In that context I'm amazed he hasn't gone full Britney.

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                    #43

                    @aqua-letifer agreed, he’s had to put up with the worst sort of bad-faith attacks that public figures can get thrown at them.

                    But - the attacks would almost never hold up when viewed in their full context and Jordan’s ability to explain his position.

                    Now he’s getting into the business of incendiary sound bites. This gives his detractors more ammo.

                    It’s bad for him.

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                    • X xenon

                      @aqua-letifer agreed, he’s had to put up with the worst sort of bad-faith attacks that public figures can get thrown at them.

                      But - the attacks would almost never hold up when viewed in their full context and Jordan’s ability to explain his position.

                      Now he’s getting into the business of incendiary sound bites. This gives his detractors more ammo.

                      It’s bad for him.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #44

                      @xenon said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                      @aqua-letifer agreed, he’s had to put up with the worst sort of bad-faith attacks that public figures can get thrown at them.

                      But - the attacks would almost never hold up when viewed in their full context and Jordan’s ability to explain his position.

                      Now he’s getting into the business of incendiary sound bites. This gives his detractors more ammo.

                      It’s bad for him.

                      Agreed. I'm just not surprised is all.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #45

                        That's what Twitter does. It drags everybody down into the shit.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          That's what Twitter does. It drags everybody down into the shit.

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                          @doctor-phibes said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                          That's what Twitter does. It drags everybody down into the shit.

                          Photo Twitter doesn't. There, you have to deal with some NFT bullshit, but people are generally very cool. No nastiness or talking about any political B.S. Just nerd talk about Portra 400 and Negative Lab Pro.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            #47

                            Sitting in Llubljana, where Peterson is about to speak in 30min...

                            PXL_20220612_172412613_copy_1280x960.jpg

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                              #48

                              How was it?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #49

                                I hope your room is clean.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  I hope your room is clean.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  #50

                                  @jon-nyc said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                                  I hope your room is clean.

                                  And tell the truth about that shit.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    #51

                                    I think Klaus is back there "petting" a cat that he encountered on the street

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      How was it?

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                                      Klaus
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                                      #52

                                      @Horace said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                                      How was it?

                                      I was a little disappointed, to be honest.

                                      The audience was interesting. I guess there were at least 5000 people in the audience. Many of them were very well-dressed, and the average age was surprisingly low. Many 20 somethings in the audience. I guess the average age was maybe 30. Many visitors from other countries, too - Croatia, Hungary, Austria, Germany.

                                      Peterson appeared on the stage with his wife. I was expecting that he'd talk about some idea from his book - as the title of the tour suggests. But instead the whole session consisted of his wife reading random audience questions from her phone and Peterson giving answers. I think that's a bad format that lacks focus and was somewhat repetitive relative to things Peterson said elsewhere. Peterson also missed the point of some of the questions and then went on a 10min rant about his misinterpretation that somehow always ended up being about Jung. His wife was completely silent apart from reading the questions off her phone - no clarifications, no follow-up questions, no interruption when he misunderstood the question. Before Jordan entered the stage, she made a rather strange advertisement for the businesses of her children, which I found a little inappropriate.

                                      Overall, I can't recommend it in its current format.

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