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"Non-compete"

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Funny timing. My employer just sent out an updated NDA and noncompete which includes that the employee cannot work for up to 1 year after termination (at will or not) for companies that compete with them. I was talking to a colleague and we agreed this is pretty normal text in the IT contracting world, but also never enforced unless an employee does something really egregious in terms of competition that would warrant the legal attention of their previous employer.

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      This is where California shines. Short of you opening up a competing business close to your former employer, the state of California generally frown upon non-compete clauses in employment agreements. My Silicone Valley friends like to boast how easy it is to quit one company to take another job with another employer across the street in the same business.

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      • MikM Offline
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        They're mess. I got sued by one employer because I would not sign one.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          They're mess. I got sued by one employer because I would not sign one.

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          @Mik said in "Non-compete":

          They're mess. I got sued by one employer because I would not sign one.

          As an employee you got sued?

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            This is where California shines. Short of you opening up a competing business close to your former employer, the state of California generally frown upon non-compete clauses in employment agreements. My Silicone Valley friends like to boast how easy it is to quit one company to take another job with another employer across the street in the same business.

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            George K
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            @Axtremus said in "Non-compete":

            My Silicone Valley friends

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              On Wall Street they call it “gardening leave”, and it’s usually only a few months. The idea is if you’re working on particular deals they don’t want you to take that knowledge to a competitor. After a few months the deals are done or dissolved, so it’s never been that long. Most people I knew loved the enforced break, and new employers expected it.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                This is where California shines. Short of you opening up a competing business close to your former employer, the state of California generally frown upon non-compete clauses in employment agreements. My Silicone Valley friends like to boast how easy it is to quit one company to take another job with another employer across the street in the same business.

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                @Axtremus said in "Non-compete":

                This is where California shines.

                That depends on whether you are the winner or loser on this question.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  In my area, a non-compete clause could prohibit you from working within a 15 mile (or larger) radius from the place that holds the contract.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    Judge strikes down FTC ruling. Non-competes are back.

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/08/20/noncompete-ban-injunction-texas/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3ec770b%2F66c6105f3b0f9a7e82f7f995%2F61e4b0d49bbc0f2783f064c6%2F29%2F54%2F66c6105f3b0f9a7e82f7f995

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      Ugh! Hope my previous employer doesn't come after me 🙂

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        Ugh! Hope my previous employer doesn't come after me 🙂

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                        @89th said in "Non-compete":

                        Ugh! Hope my previous employer doesn't come after me 🙂

                        That's why I kept changing countries. Sharing my invaluable expertise with the world was far more important than the petty concerns of national and commercial tribalism. I am a martyr to knowledge!

                        I was only joking

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Yes. I'm pretty sure you'd die for some.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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