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So About This Russian Bounty Thing

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #101

    "Dies in darkness" remember:

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    Wait...never mind:

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      BTW...Cats, what is your opinion on this story now?

      Catseye3C Offline
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      Catseye3
      wrote on last edited by
      #102

      @jolly said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:

      Cats, what is your opinion on this story now?

      I dunno. I forgot already.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #103

        The WaPo fact checker (LOLGF):

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/30/trumps-four-pinocchio-interview-russian-bounties/

        onathan Swan, Axios: “It’s been widely reported that the U.S. has intelligence indicating that Russia paid bounties, or offered to pay bounties, to Taliban fighters to kill American soldiers. You had a phone call with Vladimir Putin on July 23rd. Did you bring up this issue?”
        President Trump: “No, that was a phone call to discuss other things, and frankly, that’s an issue that many people said was fake news.”
        — Exchange on “Axios on HBO,” July 29, 2020
        Trump: “It never reached my desk. You know why? Because they didn’t think it — intelligence — they didn’t think it was real.”
        Swan: “It was in your written brief, though.”
        Trump: “They didn’t think, they didn’t think it was worthy. I wouldn’t mind. If it reached my desk, I would have done something about it. It never reached my desk because — ”
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        Swan: “Do you read your written brief?”
        Trump: “I do. I read it a lot. I read a lot. They like to say I don’t read. I read a lot. I comprehend extraordinarily well, probably better than anybody you’ve interviewed in a long time.”
        — “Axios on HBO” interview
        Trump rarely gets fact-checked on camera, but here we have a good example of an interviewer pressing and prodding on a sensitive topic.
        The president has been dismissive of U.S. intelligence reports that Russia offered bounties to the Taliban to kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan. (A “hoax” or “fake news,” Trump says.)
        Follow-up questions in a one-on-one setting can expose the strength or weakness of a claim. When asked about reports that he was briefed on the intelligence, and why he didn’t raise the bounties in a call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump started dissembling in response.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • L Offline
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          Loki
          wrote on last edited by Loki
          #104

          The media actually helped China through our sole obsession with Russia and now we woke up and are saying holy shit how did they do all that.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Loki
              wrote on last edited by Loki
              #106

              Hillary got in on the action too. Would be fun to see the talking points memo that went out and how wide the Soviet style disinformation campaign was.

              https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/23/hillary-clinton/fact-checking-hillary-clinton-donald-trumps-respon/

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #107

                So all these players are spreading misinformation, or at least "unverified" information via social media.

                And still, they persisted.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #108

                  But, Trump.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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