Classified files found at President's former office...
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@George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
McCarthy on the Trump vs Biden classified doc cases.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/advice-for-biden-pardon-trump-on-the-classified-documents/
He's wrong and he's wrong on a few counts...
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There is a vast difference between the Trump documents and the Biden documents. We can argue whether Trump declassified his, but Biden never had the authority to declassify the documents in his possession.
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Biden lied out his ass last night about possession of the red-outline super secret stuff. To whit; Biden possessed notes he had made about those types of documents he had looked at while in the Senate and as VP. Those notes are considered to be the same level of security as the original document and they were not legally in his possession. He made a lawyerly statement last night with a half-teaspoon of Truth and a bucketful of lie.
But that's just Joe.
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Maybe they get Trump on obstruction, but it's mighty thin gruel, indeed. Hard to obstruct anything when the documents are legally in your possession.
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The raid on Trump's home was for purely political purposes. Navarro's incarceration is for political purposes. The Bragg case and the Wilis case are purely political prosecutions. They need to fail it they need to be seen for what they are - Soviet tactics right out of Stalin's playbook.
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@George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
WSJ editorial board: Behind paywall so...
A good and true article.
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Kamalalala Dingdong weighs in...
White House officials on Friday called the special counsel’s report into President Biden’s handling of classified material politically motivated, escalating their attempts to discredit a document that characterized the president as elderly and forgetful.
Vice President Kamala Harris suggested that the report was more of a political attack than an unbiased legal document. Ian Sams, a spokesman for the White House Counsel’s Office, said it was “inappropriate” and “troubling.”
The statements are part of an effort to rebuff the report by Robert K. Hur, the special counsel who was appointed by Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to investigate how classified material from Mr. Biden’s time as vice president had ended up in his garage in Delaware and an office in Washington.
The report, which was released on Thursday, found that “no criminal charges are warranted,” a conclusion that was immediately overshadowed by the characterization of the president’s memory. The report said Mr. Biden, 81, was a “well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” and had “diminished faculties in advancing age.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/09/us/politics/kamala-harris-biden-special-counsel.html
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Vice President Kamala Harris suggested that the report was more of a political attack than an unbiased legal document
I'm so old that I remember (and I posted just above) when questioning the Special COunsel's findings was an attack on our democracy (but then, these days, what the fuck isn't an attack on our democracy?).
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
@Jolly said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Vice President Kamala Harris suggested that the report was more of a political attack than an unbiased legal document
I'm so old that I remember (and I posted just above) when questioning the Special COunsel's findings was an attack on our democracy (but then, these days, what the fuck isn't an attack on our democracy?).
Biden is selling FEAR! and ABORTION! The Bidenomics crap simply did not work, except among the upper middle class faithful, who really don't care if groceries are up 20%...
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Seriously, is it time to consider invoking the 25th?
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@LuFins-Dad said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Seriously, is it time to consider invoking the 25th?
It Depends
....Remember all the armchair shrinks talking about it in the distant past - like 6 years ago?
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@LuFins-Dad said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Seriously, is it time to consider invoking the 25th?
I think it bears serious consideration.
It also serves two purposes:
- Removal of a President mentally incompetent for the job.
- I think it would discourage some older people from running.
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Had to look up the "25th" but it for sure appears that it is time.
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@taiwan_girl said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Had to look up the "25th" but it for sure appears that it is time.
Where were you when Trump was POTUS. Every "journalist" in the MSM was waving a PDF of the 25th amendment on the air. So many psychologists saying it should be invoked.
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@George-K I maybe don't disagree with the assessment of President Trump either. 555 (Using Article 4 of the amendment)
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@taiwan_girl said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Had to look up the "25th" but it for sure appears that it is time.
https://jonathanturley.org/2024/02/12/can-biden-be-removed-under-the-25th-amendment-dont-bet-on-it/
Now, some are calling for Biden’s removal from the presidency under the 25th Amendment. However, constitutional removal would require more than just memory lapses and “get off my lawn” press conferences.
The Hur report details alarming gaps in Biden’s memory, and what Hur described as the president’s “diminished faculties.” Given the detailed accounts in the report, Biden’s press conference bordered on self-immolation. On Thursday night, Biden insisted that he was still sharp and not diminished mentally…before confusing the presidents of Mexico and Egypt. This followed a week when Biden repeatedly referenced conversations with long-dead world leaders.
The subsequent calls for Biden to be removed under the 25th Amendment are similar to demands made from Democrats and various law professors and pundits during the Trump administration. At the time, figures such as the University of Chicago’s Eric Posner argued that the “conventional understanding” of the amendment should be “enlarged” to include instances where both parties “lose confidence in the president’s ability to govern.”
The various experts and pundits who called for Trump’s removal under the 25th Amendment are notably silent this week, even after his own Justice Department cited his diminished faculties as a reason for not charging him.
It is Section 4 that allows the removal of a president. One option is what I have called the “mutiny option.” It requires a vice president and a majority of the Cabinet to declare that the president is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” and notify Congress that the vice president intends to take over. If Vice President Kamala Harris could get eight Cabinet officers to go along with a letter to Congress, her status as the “Acting President” would likely be short-lived. Joe Biden (who yesterday declared, “I’m elderly and know what the hell I’m doing”) would only have to declare to Congress that “no inability exists.” Biden would then resume his powers.
Harris would have to send another declaration with the Cabinet members within four days to the president pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House, rejecting Biden’s claims.
With that second declaration, Congress would have 48 hours to assemble to debate the issue. It would then have 21 days to vote on the removal. However, that would require two-thirds majorities in both houses. If Congress did not vote within 21 days, the president would resume and keep power.
In other words, it is about as likely as François Mitterrand coming forward to say that he faked his death and has indeed been in communication with Biden.
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@jon-nyc said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Hur himself outlined how much more serious the allegations against Trump are in his Biden report.
I’m guessing your news sources haven’t covered that bit very much.
I figure the report was vetted by the Just-us Department before going public. Since they didn't want to charge Biden, I suspect the elderly comment was the fig leaf to cover up the fact that neither Senator Biden or VP Biden has the power to declassify documents.
Or have they changed the Constitution when I wasn't looking?
