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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #106

    Maybe.

    I'd put Gavin over Pete.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Maybe.

      I'd put Gavin over Pete.

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      #107

      @Jolly said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

      I'd put Gavin over Pete.

      white males, you must be joking!

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      • CopperC Copper

        @Jolly said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

        I'd put Gavin over Pete.

        white males, you must be joking!

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        @Copper said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

        @Jolly said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

        I'd put Gavin over Pete.

        white males, you must be joking!

        Gay…

        The Brad

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #109

          WSJ editorial board: Behind paywall so...


          A Tipping Point on Biden’s Decline

          Will Democrats continue to ignore the growing risks of the President’s mental frailties?

          Mr. Hur’s account of his five-hour interview with Mr. Biden opened a rare window on the President in private. His account exposed what many Americans have suspected based on Mr. Biden’s many public misstatements and faltering physical presence. He couldn’t recall which years he was Vice President or even when his son Beau died. He said an ally in the Obama Administration’s debate over Afghanistan was on the opposite side.

          Democrats are raging against Mr. Hur, but they should be grateful. Mr. Biden’s mental frailty is one reason Mr. Hur offered for not presenting the President’s document-mishandling as a criminal offense before a jury. His report is also forcing Democrats to confront the political reality that Mr. Biden’s decline could re-elect Donald Trump.

          Mr. Biden compounded the damage with his performance in a rare 13-minute press appearance at the White House on Thursday night. He was angry and snappish. Worse, he confused Egypt’s President with Mexico’s in relation to Gaza, of all places. He also created a problem for Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi by saying he had to be persuaded to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.

          This followed Mr. Biden’s confusion in recent days over the names of German Chancellors and French Presidents he had spoken to. These episodes are more frequent, and they are typical of someone with a failing short-term memory. Episodes and names from the past fill the void of recent events he can’t recall.

          Such decline is part of the human condition, and it’s not Mr. Biden’s fault. But what is his fault is telling the American people that he can capably serve another four years as President.

          The fault also lies with those in the White House covering for him. He rarely gives one-on-one media interviews. He declined the typically softball affair of the traditional pre-Super Bowl interview. The White House staff doesn’t trust him to make a sustained public case on critical issues such as aid to Ukraine or Israel. Mr. Biden’s public appearances are typically scripted. And when they aren’t, Mr. Biden tends to confuse a Mitterrand with a Macron, or a Kohl with a Merkel.

          The voters can see this, which is why even most Democrats tell pollsters they doubt Mr. Biden is up to another term. A majority of Americans in the latest Harvard CAPS-Harris poll say a vote for Mr. Biden this year is really a vote for President Kamala Harris because Mr. Biden won’t make it through another four years.

          This is dangerous politically for Democrats, but it’s also a grave risk for the country. The world is as dangerous as it’s been since the 1930s, with U.S. adversaries on the march. This would be challenging for a young, vigorous leader. It’s perilous for a President who will be 82 years old before a second inauguration and who is already showing visible signs of failing memory and lapsed concentration.

          The ritual Democratic response to date has been that there is no alternative: Mr. Biden wants to run again, his wife, Jill, also wants him to run, and no one can stop him. But that’s only true if no one tries. So far only Rep. Dean Phillips has dared to speak the truth, but the politics would change if others began to say in public what they say in private.

          A Biden renomination isn’t assured until a formal vote at the Democratic convention in Chicago in August. There’s not enough time for other candidates to get on enough primary ballots. But if Mr. Biden were to announce his retirement after a single term and free his delegates to vote their conscience, there would be a wide open race for the nomination.

          Ms. Harris would run, but she wouldn’t have a free path. Expect others such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to get in. They would compete not in a national primary campaign but for the votes of 3,934 convention delegates.

          The left would try to nominate one of its own, but most Democratic delegates understand power well enough to want to win. It’s possible they could rally behind a rising Democratic star like Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro. The attention of the world would be on the Democratic race, with genuine political excitement. Republicans would have a far more difficult challenge than beating an old man with a 40% approval rating.

          Easing out an incumbent President carries risks, but hardly more than pretending that voters will ignore what they can plainly see. The main question is whether Democrats who can make a difference will continue to ignore reality, fingers-crossed, and pray that Mr. Biden doesn’t have an even larger pratfall in the next nine months.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
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            #110

            McCarthy on the Trump vs Biden classified doc cases.

            https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/advice-for-biden-pardon-trump-on-the-classified-documents/

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

            JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
            • George KG George K

              McCarthy on the Trump vs Biden classified doc cases.

              https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/advice-for-biden-pardon-trump-on-the-classified-documents/

              JollyJ Offline
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              #111

              @George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

              McCarthy on the Trump vs Biden classified doc cases.

              https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/advice-for-biden-pardon-trump-on-the-classified-documents/

              He's wrong and he's wrong on a few counts...

              1. There is a vast difference between the Trump documents and the Biden documents. We can argue whether Trump declassified his, but Biden never had the authority to declassify the documents in his possession.

              2. Biden lied out his ass last night about possession of the red-outline super secret stuff. To whit; Biden possessed notes he had made about those types of documents he had looked at while in the Senate and as VP. Those notes are considered to be the same level of security as the original document and they were not legally in his possession. He made a lawyerly statement last night with a half-teaspoon of Truth and a bucketful of lie.

              But that's just Joe.

              1. Maybe they get Trump on obstruction, but it's mighty thin gruel, indeed. Hard to obstruct anything when the documents are legally in your possession.

              2. The raid on Trump's home was for purely political purposes. Navarro's incarceration is for political purposes. The Bragg case and the Wilis case are purely political prosecutions. They need to fail it they need to be seen for what they are - Soviet tactics right out of Stalin's playbook.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG George K

                WSJ editorial board: Behind paywall so...


                A Tipping Point on Biden’s Decline

                Will Democrats continue to ignore the growing risks of the President’s mental frailties?

                Mr. Hur’s account of his five-hour interview with Mr. Biden opened a rare window on the President in private. His account exposed what many Americans have suspected based on Mr. Biden’s many public misstatements and faltering physical presence. He couldn’t recall which years he was Vice President or even when his son Beau died. He said an ally in the Obama Administration’s debate over Afghanistan was on the opposite side.

                Democrats are raging against Mr. Hur, but they should be grateful. Mr. Biden’s mental frailty is one reason Mr. Hur offered for not presenting the President’s document-mishandling as a criminal offense before a jury. His report is also forcing Democrats to confront the political reality that Mr. Biden’s decline could re-elect Donald Trump.

                Mr. Biden compounded the damage with his performance in a rare 13-minute press appearance at the White House on Thursday night. He was angry and snappish. Worse, he confused Egypt’s President with Mexico’s in relation to Gaza, of all places. He also created a problem for Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi by saying he had to be persuaded to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.

                This followed Mr. Biden’s confusion in recent days over the names of German Chancellors and French Presidents he had spoken to. These episodes are more frequent, and they are typical of someone with a failing short-term memory. Episodes and names from the past fill the void of recent events he can’t recall.

                Such decline is part of the human condition, and it’s not Mr. Biden’s fault. But what is his fault is telling the American people that he can capably serve another four years as President.

                The fault also lies with those in the White House covering for him. He rarely gives one-on-one media interviews. He declined the typically softball affair of the traditional pre-Super Bowl interview. The White House staff doesn’t trust him to make a sustained public case on critical issues such as aid to Ukraine or Israel. Mr. Biden’s public appearances are typically scripted. And when they aren’t, Mr. Biden tends to confuse a Mitterrand with a Macron, or a Kohl with a Merkel.

                The voters can see this, which is why even most Democrats tell pollsters they doubt Mr. Biden is up to another term. A majority of Americans in the latest Harvard CAPS-Harris poll say a vote for Mr. Biden this year is really a vote for President Kamala Harris because Mr. Biden won’t make it through another four years.

                This is dangerous politically for Democrats, but it’s also a grave risk for the country. The world is as dangerous as it’s been since the 1930s, with U.S. adversaries on the march. This would be challenging for a young, vigorous leader. It’s perilous for a President who will be 82 years old before a second inauguration and who is already showing visible signs of failing memory and lapsed concentration.

                The ritual Democratic response to date has been that there is no alternative: Mr. Biden wants to run again, his wife, Jill, also wants him to run, and no one can stop him. But that’s only true if no one tries. So far only Rep. Dean Phillips has dared to speak the truth, but the politics would change if others began to say in public what they say in private.

                A Biden renomination isn’t assured until a formal vote at the Democratic convention in Chicago in August. There’s not enough time for other candidates to get on enough primary ballots. But if Mr. Biden were to announce his retirement after a single term and free his delegates to vote their conscience, there would be a wide open race for the nomination.

                Ms. Harris would run, but she wouldn’t have a free path. Expect others such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to get in. They would compete not in a national primary campaign but for the votes of 3,934 convention delegates.

                The left would try to nominate one of its own, but most Democratic delegates understand power well enough to want to win. It’s possible they could rally behind a rising Democratic star like Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro. The attention of the world would be on the Democratic race, with genuine political excitement. Republicans would have a far more difficult challenge than beating an old man with a 40% approval rating.

                Easing out an incumbent President carries risks, but hardly more than pretending that voters will ignore what they can plainly see. The main question is whether Democrats who can make a difference will continue to ignore reality, fingers-crossed, and pray that Mr. Biden doesn’t have an even larger pratfall in the next nine months.

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                #112

                @George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

                WSJ editorial board: Behind paywall so...

                A good and true article.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #113

                  "You have no shame, attacking a special counsel."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #114

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Kamalalala Dingdong weighs in...

                      White House officials on Friday called the special counsel’s report into President Biden’s handling of classified material politically motivated, escalating their attempts to discredit a document that characterized the president as elderly and forgetful.

                      Vice President Kamala Harris suggested that the report was more of a political attack than an unbiased legal document. Ian Sams, a spokesman for the White House Counsel’s Office, said it was “inappropriate” and “troubling.”

                      The statements are part of an effort to rebuff the report by Robert K. Hur, the special counsel who was appointed by Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to investigate how classified material from Mr. Biden’s time as vice president had ended up in his garage in Delaware and an office in Washington.

                      The report, which was released on Thursday, found that “no criminal charges are warranted,” a conclusion that was immediately overshadowed by the characterization of the president’s memory. The report said Mr. Biden, 81, was a “well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” and had “diminished faculties in advancing age.”

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/09/us/politics/kamala-harris-biden-special-counsel.html

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Kamalalala Dingdong weighs in...

                        White House officials on Friday called the special counsel’s report into President Biden’s handling of classified material politically motivated, escalating their attempts to discredit a document that characterized the president as elderly and forgetful.

                        Vice President Kamala Harris suggested that the report was more of a political attack than an unbiased legal document. Ian Sams, a spokesman for the White House Counsel’s Office, said it was “inappropriate” and “troubling.”

                        The statements are part of an effort to rebuff the report by Robert K. Hur, the special counsel who was appointed by Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to investigate how classified material from Mr. Biden’s time as vice president had ended up in his garage in Delaware and an office in Washington.

                        The report, which was released on Thursday, found that “no criminal charges are warranted,” a conclusion that was immediately overshadowed by the characterization of the president’s memory. The report said Mr. Biden, 81, was a “well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” and had “diminished faculties in advancing age.”

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/09/us/politics/kamala-harris-biden-special-counsel.html

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                        @Jolly said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

                        Vice President Kamala Harris suggested that the report was more of a political attack than an unbiased legal document

                        I'm so old that I remember (and I posted just above) when questioning the Special COunsel's findings was an attack on our democracy (but then, these days, what the fuck isn't an attack on our democracy?).

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Jolly said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

                          Vice President Kamala Harris suggested that the report was more of a political attack than an unbiased legal document

                          I'm so old that I remember (and I posted just above) when questioning the Special COunsel's findings was an attack on our democracy (but then, these days, what the fuck isn't an attack on our democracy?).

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                          @George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

                          @Jolly said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

                          Vice President Kamala Harris suggested that the report was more of a political attack than an unbiased legal document

                          I'm so old that I remember (and I posted just above) when questioning the Special COunsel's findings was an attack on our democracy (but then, these days, what the fuck isn't an attack on our democracy?).

                          Biden is selling FEAR! and ABORTION! The Bidenomics crap simply did not work, except among the upper middle class faithful, who really don't care if groceries are up 20%...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            #118

                            LOL...

                            Screenshot 2024-02-10 at 8.30.44 AM.png

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              #119

                              VDH comments...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                #120

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  Seriously, is it time to consider invoking the 25th?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Seriously, is it time to consider invoking the 25th?

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

                                    Seriously, is it time to consider invoking the 25th?

                                    It Depends®....

                                    Remember all the armchair shrinks talking about it in the distant past - like 6 years ago?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      #123

                                      I think the dems would love it if the reps got Biden removed from the ballot.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        Seriously, is it time to consider invoking the 25th?

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Classified files found at President's former office...:

                                        Seriously, is it time to consider invoking the 25th?

                                        I think it bears serious consideration.

                                        It also serves two purposes:

                                        1. Removal of a President mentally incompetent for the job.
                                        2. I think it would discourage some older people from running.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Had to look up the "25th" but it for sure appears that it is time.

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