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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Sotomayor

    Liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor on Wednesday told legal educators she felt a "sense of despair" at the direction taken by the U.S. Supreme Court during its previous term, during which its conservative majority overturned the constitutional right to abortion.

    Sotomayor, who has dissented in major cases including the abortion decision as the court's 6-3 conservative majority has become increasingly assertive, described herself as "shell-shocked" and "deeply sad" after that term ended in June.

    "I did have a sense of despair about the direction my court was going," Sotomayor said, appearing by video feed before hundreds of law professors at the Association of American Law Schools' annual meeting in San Diego.

    The court on June 24 overturned the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that had legalized abortion nationwide after one day earlier delivering an important ruling expanding gun rights.

    During her hourlong conversation with University of California, Berkeley School of Law Dean Erwin Chemerinsky, Sotomayor did not mention by name the abortion ruling, called Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. Nor did she discuss the May leak of a draft version of that decision before it was officially released the following month.

    In the Dobbs ruling, the court voted 6-3 along ideological lines to uphold a Republican-backed Mississippi law that bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy and 5-4 to overturn Roe.

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    Sotomayor said she would continue to "tilt at windmills" and write dissents even though the court has moved steadily to the right.

    "It's not an option to fall into despair," Sotomayor said. "I have to get up and keep fighting."

    The conservative justices have shown an increasing willingness to take on divisive issues and steer the court on a rightward path.

    The court's current term, which began in October, could be just as consequential as its previous one. Potential rulings could end affirmative action policies used by colleges and universities to increase enrollment of Black and Hispanic students, hobble a federal law called the Voting Rights Act and make it easier for businesses to refuse service to LGBT people based on free-speech rights.

    "It may take time but I believe we will get back on the right track," Sotomayor added.

    Ahem, Justice Latina. You mean "What I believe to be the right track."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

    LuFins DadL 89th8 2 Replies Last reply
    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Well, she is a wise Latina, y'know.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • George KG George K

        Sotomayor

        Liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor on Wednesday told legal educators she felt a "sense of despair" at the direction taken by the U.S. Supreme Court during its previous term, during which its conservative majority overturned the constitutional right to abortion.

        Sotomayor, who has dissented in major cases including the abortion decision as the court's 6-3 conservative majority has become increasingly assertive, described herself as "shell-shocked" and "deeply sad" after that term ended in June.

        "I did have a sense of despair about the direction my court was going," Sotomayor said, appearing by video feed before hundreds of law professors at the Association of American Law Schools' annual meeting in San Diego.

        The court on June 24 overturned the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that had legalized abortion nationwide after one day earlier delivering an important ruling expanding gun rights.

        During her hourlong conversation with University of California, Berkeley School of Law Dean Erwin Chemerinsky, Sotomayor did not mention by name the abortion ruling, called Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. Nor did she discuss the May leak of a draft version of that decision before it was officially released the following month.

        In the Dobbs ruling, the court voted 6-3 along ideological lines to uphold a Republican-backed Mississippi law that bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy and 5-4 to overturn Roe.

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        Sotomayor said she would continue to "tilt at windmills" and write dissents even though the court has moved steadily to the right.

        "It's not an option to fall into despair," Sotomayor said. "I have to get up and keep fighting."

        The conservative justices have shown an increasing willingness to take on divisive issues and steer the court on a rightward path.

        The court's current term, which began in October, could be just as consequential as its previous one. Potential rulings could end affirmative action policies used by colleges and universities to increase enrollment of Black and Hispanic students, hobble a federal law called the Voting Rights Act and make it easier for businesses to refuse service to LGBT people based on free-speech rights.

        "It may take time but I believe we will get back on the right track," Sotomayor added.

        Ahem, Justice Latina. You mean "What I believe to be the right track."

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        "It's not an option to fall into despair," Sotomayor said. "I have to get up and keep fighting."

        Ahem, Justice Latina? I believe you mean working in a collegial and impartial manner with my fellow justices to find fair, equitable, legal, and constitutional decisions to these cases.

        The Brad

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Too lazy to look it up...

          Have other SCOTUS justices come out publicly to criticize decisions made by their colleagues, other than writing a dissent?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Sotomayor

            Liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor on Wednesday told legal educators she felt a "sense of despair" at the direction taken by the U.S. Supreme Court during its previous term, during which its conservative majority overturned the constitutional right to abortion.

            Sotomayor, who has dissented in major cases including the abortion decision as the court's 6-3 conservative majority has become increasingly assertive, described herself as "shell-shocked" and "deeply sad" after that term ended in June.

            "I did have a sense of despair about the direction my court was going," Sotomayor said, appearing by video feed before hundreds of law professors at the Association of American Law Schools' annual meeting in San Diego.

            The court on June 24 overturned the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that had legalized abortion nationwide after one day earlier delivering an important ruling expanding gun rights.

            During her hourlong conversation with University of California, Berkeley School of Law Dean Erwin Chemerinsky, Sotomayor did not mention by name the abortion ruling, called Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. Nor did she discuss the May leak of a draft version of that decision before it was officially released the following month.

            In the Dobbs ruling, the court voted 6-3 along ideological lines to uphold a Republican-backed Mississippi law that bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy and 5-4 to overturn Roe.

            Advertisement · Scroll to continue
            Sotomayor said she would continue to "tilt at windmills" and write dissents even though the court has moved steadily to the right.

            "It's not an option to fall into despair," Sotomayor said. "I have to get up and keep fighting."

            The conservative justices have shown an increasing willingness to take on divisive issues and steer the court on a rightward path.

            The court's current term, which began in October, could be just as consequential as its previous one. Potential rulings could end affirmative action policies used by colleges and universities to increase enrollment of Black and Hispanic students, hobble a federal law called the Voting Rights Act and make it easier for businesses to refuse service to LGBT people based on free-speech rights.

            "It may take time but I believe we will get back on the right track," Sotomayor added.

            Ahem, Justice Latina. You mean "What I believe to be the right track."

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            @George-K said in "Shell-shocked":

            "It may take time but I believe we will get back on the right track," Sotomayor added.

            Ahem, Justice Latina. You mean "What I believe to be the right track."

            Well I guess technically it already is on the RIGHT track. 😉

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            • George KG George K

              Too lazy to look it up...

              Have other SCOTUS justices come out publicly to criticize decisions made by their colleagues, other than writing a dissent?

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              Jolly
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              #6

              @George-K said in "Shell-shocked":

              Too lazy to look it up...

              Have other SCOTUS justices come out publicly to criticize decisions made by their colleagues, other than writing a dissent?

              I think it very rare, at least in my lifetime.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                Good vs evil, that's the world she lives in. Her and the 10s of millions of her ideological fellow travelers. There is no convincing them otherwise. Imagine, a supreme court justice incapable of seeing Dobbs from a legal, constitutional perspective. She is only able to see it from a good vs evil perspective.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  I think they misunderstand the role of SCOTUS. It's not to guide policy, but to interpret the nation's laws according to the Constitution.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I think they misunderstand the role of SCOTUS. It's not to guide policy, but to interpret the nation's laws according to the Constitution.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @Mik said in "Shell-shocked":

                    I think they misunderstand the role of SCOTUS.

                    You misspelled "her."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      I think they misunderstand the role of SCOTUS. It's not to guide policy, but to interpret the nation's laws according to the Constitution.

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                      Jolly
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                      @Mik said in "Shell-shocked":

                      I think they misunderstand the role of SCOTUS. It's not to guide policy, but to interpret the nation's laws according to the Constitution.

                      How positively 19th century!

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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