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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Loki said in The workout thread:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

    Got 7 miles today. Slow avg pace—12 minute mile or so.

    Swamp running is worth 1.5x

    And holy CRAP was it that today. Not only with the heat and humidity, I mean it literally: the football field I use as an emergency cut-through sometimes was flooded. My shoes were fully soaked when I got back. Flies, gnats, mosquitos everyplace.

    It's been so rare that I've had even decent running conditions that I don't even care anymore. I just expect it to be disgusting.

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    Loki
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    @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

    @Loki said in The workout thread:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

    Got 7 miles today. Slow avg pace—12 minute mile or so.

    Swamp running is worth 1.5x

    And holy CRAP was it that today. Not only with the heat and humidity, I mean it literally: the football field I use as an emergency cut-through sometimes was flooded. My shoes were fully soaked when I got back. Flies, gnats, mosquitos everyplace.

    It's been so rare that I've had even decent running conditions that I don't even care anymore. I just expect it to be disgusting.

    Yeah it has been the worst summer in memory for dew point. Consistently over 70 and that is every bit as bad as high temperature. You are not imagining things. Next week looks awesome, don’t miss it.

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      Catseye3
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      #132

      For those interested in how many steps per day they accrue, here is a conversion chart that converts various activities into equivalent numbers of steps.

      For instance, chopping wood for 15 minutes is the same as walking 1995 steps.

      https://www.pehp.org/mango/pdf/pehp/pdc/step conversion chart_FFB805BB.pdf

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • KlausK Offline
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        Klaus
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        #133

        Did some lifting in a hotel gym and ended up with a severe acute lumbago. This morning I needed help to even get out of the bed. Damn.

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        • KlausK Klaus

          Did some lifting in a hotel gym and ended up with a severe acute lumbago. This morning I needed help to even get out of the bed. Damn.

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          George K
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          #134

          @Klaus said in The workout thread:

          Did some lifting in a hotel gym and ended up with a severe acute lumbago. This morning I needed help to even get out of the bed. Damn.

          Oh, man....

          Few things worse than back pain.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @Klaus said in The workout thread:

            Did some lifting in a hotel gym and ended up with a severe acute lumbago. This morning I needed help to even get out of the bed. Damn.

            Oh, man....

            Few things worse than back pain.

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            @George-K said in The workout thread:

            @Klaus said in The workout thread:

            Did some lifting in a hotel gym and ended up with a severe acute lumbago. This morning I needed help to even get out of the bed. Damn.

            Oh, man....

            Few things worse than back pain.

            I have learned how to avoid back pain and it’s a super rare event for me anymore. Is the term lumbago common. In certain countries?

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            • L Loki

              @George-K said in The workout thread:

              @Klaus said in The workout thread:

              Did some lifting in a hotel gym and ended up with a severe acute lumbago. This morning I needed help to even get out of the bed. Damn.

              Oh, man....

              Few things worse than back pain.

              I have learned how to avoid back pain and it’s a super rare event for me anymore. Is the term lumbago common. In certain countries?

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              Klaus
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              #136

              @Loki actually I found no adequate English word for this particular form of lower back pain. In German, it’s Hexenschuss.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #137

                Sorry, man. I get back pain fairly frequently as well. Some times it's very painful, sometimes it's debilitating.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Klaus
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                  #138

                  Just ordered a new bike. 7.3kg. Carbon frame. Carbon aero wheels. Electronic shifting. Integrated powermeter. Aqua will hate this 🙂 My employer pays a significant part of the price. I'm really looking forward to this.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #139

                    Bloody hell, Klaus, that's a nice looking bike. What was wrong with the last one? 🙂

                    You must have a very understanding wife. You have told Mrs. Klaus?

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Bloody hell, Klaus, that's a nice looking bike. What was wrong with the last one? 🙂

                      You must have a very understanding wife. You have told Mrs. Klaus?

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                      Klaus
                      wrote on last edited by Klaus
                      #140

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The workout thread:

                      You have told Mrs. Klaus?

                      Err. You raise a very good point there. I still have a month or two until it is delivered.

                      My intended line of defense will be "If I'd buy a Porsche or start playing Golf or do any other common way of dealing with male midlife crisis, it would be way more expensive".

                      Do you think this will work?

                      Alternatives I considered include: "This is the last bike I'll ever need to buy" (maybe too obviously a lie) , "I need separate bikes for gravel and road", and "All the others in the club have better bikes".

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #141

                        My cunning plan was to swap the $1800 Trek Emonda ALR 5 for the $6700 Trek Emonda SLR 6, and hope that she didn't notice.

                        They're practically the same shape and colour, so I reckon I could swing it.

                        Of course, first I'd have to get $6700.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          My cunning plan was to swap the $1800 Trek Emonda ALR 5 for the $6700 Trek Emonda SLR 6, and hope that she didn't notice.

                          They're practically the same shape and colour, so I reckon I could swing it.

                          Of course, first I'd have to get $6700.

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                          Klaus
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                          #142

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The workout thread:

                          Of course, first I'd have to get $6700.

                          Technically, I'm leasing the bike for three years (this has to do with sharing the costs with my employer), so I pay a monthly fee that is directly deduced from my salary. It's a good way to disguise the actual costs. Maybe you have a similar option? 😉

                          Otherwise, I'd say your plan sounds pretty sensible. Go for it!

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                            Klaus
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                            #143

                            By the way, I'd take a look at buying directly from a vendor like Canyon, Rose etc. The bang-for-the-buck is way higher than when buying at a dealership. From what I can see, a bike with similar features as the SLR6 can be had for less than $4K.

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                            • KlausK Klaus

                              By the way, I'd take a look at buying directly from a vendor like Canyon, Rose etc. The bang-for-the-buck is way higher than when buying at a dealership. From what I can see, a bike with similar features as the SLR6 can be had for less than $4K.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              #144

                              @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                              The bang-for-the-buck is way higher than when buying at a dealership.

                              Unless you need a bike shop for literally anything. Just something to consider. Anyway, Canyons are very good bikes.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                By the way, I'd take a look at buying directly from a vendor like Canyon, Rose etc. The bang-for-the-buck is way higher than when buying at a dealership. From what I can see, a bike with similar features as the SLR6 can be had for less than $4K.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #145

                                @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                                By the way, I'd take a look at buying directly from a vendor like Canyon, Rose etc. The bang-for-the-buck is way higher than when buying at a dealership. From what I can see, a bike with similar features as the SLR6 can be had for less than $4K.

                                Yes, those do look better value. I have a colleague who's a proper cyclist, he suggested getting my first decent bike from a local bike shop, as you get great service if you need it - a proper fitting, trial run, etc. Once you've got the hang of it and know what works for you, if you upgrade you can use an online vendor.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                                  The bang-for-the-buck is way higher than when buying at a dealership.

                                  Unless you need a bike shop for literally anything. Just something to consider. Anyway, Canyons are very good bikes.

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                                  #146

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

                                  Unless you need a bike shop for literally anything.

                                  I do all maintenance and repair myself, so I don't need a bike shop.

                                  That said, I think there's no reason why the act of buying a bike can't be separate from maintaining it, just as it is for cars. A bike shop should calculate its prices in such a way that it doesn't matter whether a bike that is going to be repaired was purchased at that bike shop. Mixed financing is outdated.

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                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

                                    Unless you need a bike shop for literally anything.

                                    I do all maintenance and repair myself, so I don't need a bike shop.

                                    That said, I think there's no reason why the act of buying a bike can't be separate from maintaining it, just as it is for cars. A bike shop should calculate its prices in such a way that it doesn't matter whether a bike that is going to be repaired was purchased at that bike shop. Mixed financing is outdated.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                                    That said, I think there's no reason why the act of buying a bike can't be separate from maintaining it, just as it is for cars. A bike shop should calculate its prices in such a way that it doesn't matter whether a bike that is going to be repaired was purchased at that bike shop. Mixed financing is outdated.

                                    How many bike shops have you worked in?

                                    Prior to the pandemic, many were struggling. The mixed financing bullshit was a way for them to increase their revenue a little. Not saying it's an awesome system.

                                    I worked in one where they didn't do the mixed financing thing, but the motto was "sell the shop, not the stuff inside it." Their approach was to create a community around the shop: organize weekend rides, do "ride-throughs" for folks who wanted to commute by bike but didn't know the best way to navigate the area on one, set up local 'cross races, meet folks for some trail riding, etc., etc. Pitching in with those things was part of the job description.

                                    There, you didn't get a deal on the bike at all, but if you bought the bike at the store you got a discount on all the parts and maintenance basically forever.

                                    Many of them have had a really rough go of it and were struggling to keep the lights on.

                                    The pandemic has seriously helped.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Klaus
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                                      Well, I did once ask a local bike shop for a repair where I wasn't sure whether I could do it myself (trueing a wheel). The next free date when they could have repaired my bike was two months later. I ended up doing the repair myself. But in any case, at least in my area the bike shops have more than enough to do. And that was before COVID. Now it's just crazy. Bikes are sold out everywhere. The one I just ordered has two months of waiting, but that's on the low end. Others have delivery dates in April or June 2021. It's almost like buying a car in the GDR used to be.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #149

                                        That's nuts. It's like that here but not nearly to that degree!

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          #150

                                          I love my local bike shop. I was willing to spend an extra 100 for the service they gave, which was really good, and they also did a repair I couldn't manage as I didn't have the correct tool. They fixed it the same day.

                                          I don't think it's worth spending an extra $2000, but in reality the chance of me getting a $4K bike is zero.

                                          I also think as a general point it's worth trying to help small local businesses like these survive.

                                          I was only joking

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