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The Southwest Airlines meltdown

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  • CopperC Copper

    idiots

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    @Copper said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

    idiots

    Wonder what a information system would have cost?

    I'm guessing a little bit less than what they lost.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      The end for Pete?

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/is-this-the-end-for-pete-buttigieg/ar-AA16LL1y?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=59c29cca60344c0b82596901ca575dc5

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @Copper said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

        idiots

        Wonder what a information system would have cost?

        I'm guessing a little bit less than what they lost.

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        #27

        @Jolly said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

        @Copper said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

        idiots

        Wonder what a information system would have cost?

        I'm guessing a little bit less than what they lost.

        Jeez, yeah even 10% of that loss would've covered t3h best system ev4h.

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          Don't bet on it. These systems are incredibly complex and delicate, as we have seen. To begin such an endeavor is potential career suicide for execs, with a low probability of full success within one's tenure. There is a high probability of huge cost overruns and delays.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Copper said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

            idiots

            Wonder what a information system would have cost?

            I'm guessing a little bit less than what they lost.

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            LuFins Dad
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            #29

            @Jolly said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

            @Copper said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

            idiots

            Wonder what a information system would have cost?

            I'm guessing a little bit less than what they lost.

            Excellent point.

            The Brad

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            • MikM Mik

              Don't bet on it. These systems are incredibly complex and delicate, as we have seen. To begin such an endeavor is potential career suicide for execs, with a low probability of full success within one's tenure. There is a high probability of huge cost overruns and delays.

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              @Mik said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

              Don't bet on it. These systems are incredibly complex and delicate, as we have seen. To begin such an endeavor is potential career suicide for execs, with a low probability of full success within one's tenure. There is a high probability of huge cost overruns and delays.

              Yeah but if you gave $80 million to Horace, he would have the IT system done in a few weeks. He would even post timelapse photos of it as it's being built.

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              • 89th8 89th

                @Mik said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

                Don't bet on it. These systems are incredibly complex and delicate, as we have seen. To begin such an endeavor is potential career suicide for execs, with a low probability of full success within one's tenure. There is a high probability of huge cost overruns and delays.

                Yeah but if you gave $80 million to Horace, he would have the IT system done in a few weeks. He would even post timelapse photos of it as it's being built.

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                @89th said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

                @Mik said in The Southwest Airlines meltdown:

                Don't bet on it. These systems are incredibly complex and delicate, as we have seen. To begin such an endeavor is potential career suicide for execs, with a low probability of full success within one's tenure. There is a high probability of huge cost overruns and delays.

                Yeah but if you gave $80 million to Horace, he would have the IT system done in a few weeks. He would even post timelapse photos of it as it's being built.

                Not just me. Mark or Copper could do it even better.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  I would make it so simple that they would get change back from the $80M

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                    #33

                    I don't know what sort of systems Copper has worked on, but Mark’s software probably has more in common, tracking and sharing equipment location, usage and maintenance. He would have a good idea of the immensity of adding passengers, crews, flight times, luggage, etc. to that.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      #34

                      (flights are now resuming)

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #35

                        Wow

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Only flew SW once. It was nice back then, late 90's. I'd have a very hard time buying a ticket from them now.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Only flew SW once. It was nice back then, late 90's. I'd have a very hard time buying a ticket from them now.

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                            @Mik Me too, in 93.

                            Birmingham AL to Houston via New Orleans.

                            And yes I consider it odd that I remember those details given my 2MM+ mile history of flying.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              #38

                              I just remember it because I was working in LA and decided to take the weekend to visit my brother near Sacramento. The seats faced each other so leg room was better. Also the first time I heard a funny safety speech.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                https://www.thestreet.com/lifestyle/travel/airline-ranked-worst-of-the-year-will-not-surprise-anyone

                                Some study that recently came out ranks Southwest as the worst airline of the year.

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