The UK Invasion?
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@Horace said in The UK Invasion?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:
@Horace said in The UK Invasion?:
It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.
Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.
New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.
No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?
A rather sweeping statement.
In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.
@Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:
@Horace said in The UK Invasion?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:
@Horace said in The UK Invasion?:
It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.
Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.
New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.
No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?
A rather sweeping statement.
In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.
I'm talking about what the culture finds sayable or unsayable. As in, Overton windows, but broadly applied to the sorts of ideas that would be found acceptable to discuss in polite company. I'm talking about the reasonable and potentially good ideas that are outside that window. The ones where, if you present them as arguably supportable ideas, you are labeled a nutcase or evil, and dismissed immediately. Those ideas exist on the right, and are in fact plentiful when considering counter arguments to our core leftist narratives. I'm just wondering if such ideas even exist on the left. It's probably not reasonably debatable that they exist in equal quantity there, but I wonder if they exist at all.
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@Horace said in The UK Invasion?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:
@Horace said in The UK Invasion?:
It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.
Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.
New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.
No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?
A rather sweeping statement.
In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.
@Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:
how a person perceives what is reasonable.
For example, 4 unsayable, followed by 4 sayable
That Donald Trump is not such a bad guy sometimes
Having a few guns in your closet shouldn't bother anyone
Abortion is violence against women
Immigrants want to follow the immigration rules
5-year-olds should explore their gender preference
Shoplifting should be legal
Let's eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities
Defund the police
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@Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:
how a person perceives what is reasonable.
For example, 4 unsayable, followed by 4 sayable
That Donald Trump is not such a bad guy sometimes
Having a few guns in your closet shouldn't bother anyone
Abortion is violence against women
Immigrants want to follow the immigration rules
5-year-olds should explore their gender preference
Shoplifting should be legal
Let's eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities
Defund the police
Anyway, break’s over. We need to get back to talking about America…
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@Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:
@Horace said in The UK Invasion?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:
@Horace said in The UK Invasion?:
It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.
Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.
New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.
No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?
A rather sweeping statement.
In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.
I'm talking about what the culture finds sayable or unsayable. As in, Overton windows, but broadly applied to the sorts of ideas that would be found acceptable to discuss in polite company. I'm talking about the reasonable and potentially good ideas that are outside that window. The ones where, if you present them as arguably supportable ideas, you are labeled a nutcase or evil, and dismissed immediately. Those ideas exist on the right, and are in fact plentiful when considering counter arguments to our core leftist narratives. I'm just wondering if such ideas even exist on the left. It's probably not reasonably debatable that they exist in equal quantity there, but I wonder if they exist at all.
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@Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:
how a person perceives what is reasonable.
For example, 4 unsayable, followed by 4 sayable
That Donald Trump is not such a bad guy sometimes
Having a few guns in your closet shouldn't bother anyone
Abortion is violence against women
Immigrants want to follow the immigration rules
5-year-olds should explore their gender preference
Shoplifting should be legal
Let's eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities
Defund the police
@Copper said in The UK Invasion?:
@Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:
how a person perceives what is reasonable.
For example, 4 unsayable, followed by 4 sayable
That Donald Trump is not such a bad guy sometimes
No problem and I am sure his wife and grand kids think the same
Having a few guns in your closet shouldn't bother anyone
Again, no problem so long as they are safely stored.
Abortion is violence against women
And I would say it is really no one’s and especially not the government’s damned business whether a woman wants an abortion or not.
Immigrants want to follow the immigration rules
Absolutely they should. The law is the law.
5-year-olds should explore their gender preference
I cannot see any reason why they should or have need to explore anything other than their immediate surroundings. So the answer is no.
Shoplifting should be legal
No.
Let's eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities
I don’t believe Blacks as being oppressed. But then I don’t believe aboriginals are being oppressed either. I do wish though some white and black male Gentiles would stop playing the victim.
Defund the police
Nonsense, police budgets should be increased.