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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

    It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.

    Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.

    New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

    @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

    It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.

    Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.

    New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.

    No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Mik said in The UK Invasion?:

      Anthony Burgess wrote a novel in 1978 titled 1985 intended as a tribute to Orwell's 1984, but also a treatise pointing out the original novel's limitations. One of the trends he pointed out was the growth of Islam as a political and social force due to high immigration rates.

      Clearly there's issues with significant immigration, but people posting about "kicking koranimals sitting on the sidewalk in the face" has to make you wonder who the problem folk are.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

      @Mik said in The UK Invasion?:

      Anthony Burgess wrote a novel in 1978 titled 1985 intended as a tribute to Orwell's 1984, but also a treatise pointing out the original novel's limitations. One of the trends he pointed out was the growth of Islam as a political and social force due to high immigration rates.

      Clearly there's issues with significant immigration, but people posting about "kicking koranimals sitting on the sidewalk in the face" has to make you wonder who the problem folk are.

      One can read anything in the comments section. The article itself has merit. The influx of huge numbers of Muslims is having an effect upon the UK (and many other European countries).

      The question becomes, what should be done?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        We could ship 'em some Latinos. At least they grew up in mostly western culture.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          Horace
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          Muslims would do well to learn to build houses. And make delicious food.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Muslims would do well to learn to build houses. And make delicious food.

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            @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

            Muslims would do well to learn to build houses. And make delicious food.

            The Brits have the Polish to build houses. As far as food goes, I'm thinking they've picked up on how to cook traditional British curry quite well.

            I was only joking

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

              @Mik said in The UK Invasion?:

              Anthony Burgess wrote a novel in 1978 titled 1985 intended as a tribute to Orwell's 1984, but also a treatise pointing out the original novel's limitations. One of the trends he pointed out was the growth of Islam as a political and social force due to high immigration rates.

              Clearly there's issues with significant immigration, but people posting about "kicking koranimals sitting on the sidewalk in the face" has to make you wonder who the problem folk are.

              One can read anything in the comments section. The article itself has merit. The influx of huge numbers of Muslims is having an effect upon the UK (and many other European countries).

              The question becomes, what should be done?

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @Jolly said in The UK Invasion?:

              The influx of huge numbers of Muslims is having an effect upon the UK (and many other European countries).

              Currently, it's roughly 6.7% of the population.

              Americans seem to get rather over-excited by this on a fairly regular basis. Presumably it takes their minds off their own national obsession with race for a short period of time.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Jolly said in The UK Invasion?:

                The influx of huge numbers of Muslims is having an effect upon the UK (and many other European countries).

                Currently, it's roughly 6.7% of the population.

                Americans seem to get rather over-excited by this on a fairly regular basis. Presumably it takes their minds off their own national obsession with race for a short period of time.

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                @Doctor-Phibes

                Presumably it takes their minds off their own national obsession with race for a short period of time.

                Say it isn’t so, Joe.

                Elbows up!

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  Also, as I mentioned in another thread, we were told that Brexit would curb the numbers of immigrants coming into the UK. Apparently, this hasn't occurred.

                  I find it very hard to believe that the people who campaigned so energetically for the UK to leave the EU would have been dishonest. So what went wrong?

                  I was only joking

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

                    @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                    It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.

                    Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.

                    New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.

                    No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?

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                    Renauda
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                    @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

                    @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                    It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.

                    Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.

                    New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.

                    No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?

                    A rather sweeping statement.

                    In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

                      @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                      It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.

                      Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.

                      New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.

                      No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?

                      A rather sweeping statement.

                      In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.

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                      Horace
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                      @Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:

                      @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

                      @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                      It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.

                      Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.

                      New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.

                      No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?

                      A rather sweeping statement.

                      In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.

                      I'm talking about what the culture finds sayable or unsayable. As in, Overton windows, but broadly applied to the sorts of ideas that would be found acceptable to discuss in polite company. I'm talking about the reasonable and potentially good ideas that are outside that window. The ones where, if you present them as arguably supportable ideas, you are labeled a nutcase or evil, and dismissed immediately. Those ideas exist on the right, and are in fact plentiful when considering counter arguments to our core leftist narratives. I'm just wondering if such ideas even exist on the left. It's probably not reasonably debatable that they exist in equal quantity there, but I wonder if they exist at all.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

                        @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                        It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.

                        Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.

                        New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.

                        No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?

                        A rather sweeping statement.

                        In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.

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                        @Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:

                        how a person perceives what is reasonable.

                        For example, 4 unsayable, followed by 4 sayable

                        That Donald Trump is not such a bad guy sometimes

                        Having a few guns in your closet shouldn't bother anyone

                        Abortion is violence against women

                        Immigrants want to follow the immigration rules

                        5-year-olds should explore their gender preference

                        Shoplifting should be legal

                        Let's eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities

                        Defund the police

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:

                          how a person perceives what is reasonable.

                          For example, 4 unsayable, followed by 4 sayable

                          That Donald Trump is not such a bad guy sometimes

                          Having a few guns in your closet shouldn't bother anyone

                          Abortion is violence against women

                          Immigrants want to follow the immigration rules

                          5-year-olds should explore their gender preference

                          Shoplifting should be legal

                          Let's eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities

                          Defund the police

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #23

                          Anyway, break’s over. We need to get back to talking about America…

                          I was only joking

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:

                            @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The UK Invasion?:

                            @Horace said in The UK Invasion?:

                            It's the reason why you'd be comfortable criticizing the right in random polite company, but not the left.

                            Personally, I would never talk politics in random polite company, but I do know plenty of people who by my standards are pretty conservative, and have no problem making their points.

                            New England isn't California, despite the huge Democrat majority.

                            No matter where you are, the universe of reasonable but unsayable political ideas exists more on the right than it does on the left. Actually, what is a reasonable but unsayable idea on the left?

                            A rather sweeping statement.

                            In any case it depends on how a person perceives what is reasonable. For example, external circumstances influencing how a person considers an idea as being either reasonable or not. The right left duality may or may not even be an intervening factor.

                            I'm talking about what the culture finds sayable or unsayable. As in, Overton windows, but broadly applied to the sorts of ideas that would be found acceptable to discuss in polite company. I'm talking about the reasonable and potentially good ideas that are outside that window. The ones where, if you present them as arguably supportable ideas, you are labeled a nutcase or evil, and dismissed immediately. Those ideas exist on the right, and are in fact plentiful when considering counter arguments to our core leftist narratives. I'm just wondering if such ideas even exist on the left. It's probably not reasonably debatable that they exist in equal quantity there, but I wonder if they exist at all.

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                            Renauda
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                            @Horace

                            I couldn’t possibly comment as I don’t follow current trends in pop culture.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:

                              how a person perceives what is reasonable.

                              For example, 4 unsayable, followed by 4 sayable

                              That Donald Trump is not such a bad guy sometimes

                              Having a few guns in your closet shouldn't bother anyone

                              Abortion is violence against women

                              Immigrants want to follow the immigration rules

                              5-year-olds should explore their gender preference

                              Shoplifting should be legal

                              Let's eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities

                              Defund the police

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                              RenaudaR Offline
                              Renauda
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                              @Copper said in The UK Invasion?:

                              @Renauda said in The UK Invasion?:

                              how a person perceives what is reasonable.

                              For example, 4 unsayable, followed by 4 sayable

                              That Donald Trump is not such a bad guy sometimes

                              No problem and I am sure his wife and grand kids think the same

                              Having a few guns in your closet shouldn't bother anyone

                              Again, no problem so long as they are safely stored.

                              Abortion is violence against women

                              And I would say it is really no one’s and especially not the government’s damned business whether a woman wants an abortion or not.

                              Immigrants want to follow the immigration rules

                              Absolutely they should. The law is the law.

                              5-year-olds should explore their gender preference

                              I cannot see any reason why they should or have need to explore anything other than their immediate surroundings. So the answer is no.

                              Shoplifting should be legal

                              No.

                              Let's eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities

                              I don’t believe Blacks as being oppressed. But then I don’t believe aboriginals are being oppressed either. I do wish though some white and black male Gentiles would stop playing the victim.

                              Defund the police

                              Nonsense, police budgets should be increased.

                              Elbows up!

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