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  • G George K
    9 Dec 2022, 01:20

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    Horace
    wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 01:21 last edited by
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    @George-K said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

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    Recall at the time, the very word "facts" was political. The good guys knew what "facts" were, and Twitter was unequivocally a good guy.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • H Horace
      9 Dec 2022, 01:21

      @George-K said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

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      Recall at the time, the very word "facts" was political. The good guys knew what "facts" were, and Twitter was unequivocally a good guy.

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      George K
      wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 01:22 last edited by
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      @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

      a good guy.

      DaFuq!

      You're a biologist?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 01:59 last edited by
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Copper
          wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 02:18 last edited by
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          Tucker is eating this up

          It is pretty bad

          The twitter employees who did this are trash

          The questions will be, did government officials use twitter to prevent free speech? And when will they be put in jail?

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 02:21 last edited by
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            We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • C Copper
              9 Dec 2022, 02:18

              Tucker is eating this up

              It is pretty bad

              The twitter employees who did this are trash

              The questions will be, did government officials use twitter to prevent free speech? And when will they be put in jail?

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              George K
              wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 02:23 last edited by
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              @Copper said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

              The questions will be, did government officials use twitter to prevent free speech?

              Did the government talk to Twitter? Yes.
              Did the government say things that were pretty nonspecific? Yes.
              Did the government warn about specific things? We don't know.

              And when will they be put in jail?

              Now you're just being silly.

              But the revelations tonight about how Twitter out-and-out lied about their behaviors and policies are interesting.

              Weiss said, "Much more to come."

              Seen on someone's blog: "Meanwhile, the United States is in crisis because of a popcorn shortage."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • J jon-nyc
                9 Dec 2022, 02:21

                We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

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                Horace
                wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 02:29 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 02:42 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Sept 2022, 02:43
                  #17

                  At least this thread is somewhat more revelatory then #1. We all kind of knew ‘shadow banning’ of accounts was a thing, though Twitter denied it. I’m not sure how many people really believed their denials but now we have receipts.

                  (Let’s remember Elon has announced he’ll retain the ‘shadow ban’ concept but at the tweet level rather than the account level)

                  I’m waiting for the confirmation that they did stealth removal of followers for disfavored accounts. I saw enough complaints about it, usually with accompanying data, that I’ve always found it credible. Some was probably bot removal, especially back in the day when Trump would complain about it, but I have little doubt that some was real.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • G George K
                    9 Dec 2022, 02:23

                    @Copper said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                    The questions will be, did government officials use twitter to prevent free speech?

                    Did the government talk to Twitter? Yes.
                    Did the government say things that were pretty nonspecific? Yes.
                    Did the government warn about specific things? We don't know.

                    And when will they be put in jail?

                    Now you're just being silly.

                    But the revelations tonight about how Twitter out-and-out lied about their behaviors and policies are interesting.

                    Weiss said, "Much more to come."

                    Seen on someone's blog: "Meanwhile, the United States is in crisis because of a popcorn shortage."

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 02:44 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                    And when will they be put in jail?

                    Now you're just being silly.

                    I suspect it’s simple ignorance.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • H Horace
                      9 Dec 2022, 02:29

                      @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                      We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                      Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 02:52 last edited by
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                      @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                      @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                      We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                      Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                      I shall continue to dunk, the left be damned.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • J jon-nyc
                        9 Dec 2022, 02:52

                        @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                        @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                        We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                        Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                        I shall continue to dunk, the left be damned.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 02:55 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                        @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                        @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                        We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                        Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                        I shall continue to dunk

                        That's what Sam Harris did when he discussed this issue recently. He's capable of a more nuanced conversation, as I'm sure you are. There are other things about this to discuss beyond whether it is strictly unconstitutional.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • H Horace
                          9 Dec 2022, 02:55

                          @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                          @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                          @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                          We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                          Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                          I shall continue to dunk

                          That's what Sam Harris did when he discussed this issue recently. He's capable of a more nuanced conversation, as I'm sure you are. There are other things about this to discuss beyond whether it is strictly unconstitutional.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 03:03 last edited by
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                          @Horace It's not like I bring it up out of the blue, it's only in response to expressed misunderstandings. And the first few times I did it (including in a response to you) I was very polite about it. But it's getting a little old so I confess some snark comes out.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            George K
                            wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 14:25 last edited by
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                            Time to update the Wikipedia entry.

                            Screenshot 2022-12-09 at 8.22.54 AM.png

                            Oh, it was "the algorithm."

                            But wait, it didn't happen at all, @jack told us that.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 17:26 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 17:53 last edited by
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                                We will have to wait for Twitter moderation to be mostly right-leaning, to learn from the experts why it’s unconstitutional and an existential threat. Till then there will be nothing to see here.

                                Education is extremely important.

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